unseen new bug, or something else

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bottomland

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• Jul 4, 2020

• #1

something is happening to all the new growth on 24 outside plants, I treated for aphids with bonners soap a week ago, but now I see all my plants seem to have all the new growth is being eaten by something, (kinda like a caterpillers, but not, all the green new growth is being eaten, all that is left r the veins of the leaves, I can find no bugs, this will b my 56th out door grow, I've dealt with a lot of things, broad mites have been the hardest, got rid of them with heat, any help would b appreciated, I got no pic.

 

buzzmobile

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• Jul 5, 2020

• #2

Get up early before sunrise and grab a flashlight to check your plants. There are a couple of 'could be' critters that come to mind. Skeletonizer caterpillars and flea beetles are possibilities. Caterpillars leave 'frass' (insect poop) behind when they are feeding. Have you noticed any pellets?

 

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bottomland

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• Jul 5, 2020

• #3

buzzmobile said:

Get up early before sunrise and grab a flashlight to check your plants. There are a couple of 'could be' critters that come to mind. Skeletonizer caterpillars and flea beetles are possibilities. Caterpillars leave 'frass' (insect poop) behind when they are feeding. Have you noticed any pellets?

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thanks for the reply, checked for bugs n cat. in the predawn two days a go found nothing, at the rate i'm losing leaf matter, my plant don't have much more time, every top of new growth is damaged, it's like I can look at my plant/plants go in the house, come back out in a hour or two n see more damage, could some kind of virus or something in my soil b causing this I wonder

 

buzzmobile

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• Jul 5, 2020

• #4

Pictures might help.

 

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bottomland

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• Jul 6, 2020

• #5

well it looks like this grow is trash, had 4 growers look at my grow, they all said what nice plants I have, except for all the new growth sites (3000 of then) look like something is eating at them, told them know bugs, I told two of the guys i'll give them a buck a bug for what they can find, they came back at midnight n went looking, well it cost me 2 bucks, they found 1 cat n a hopper they couldn't catch, it's got to be some like of disease, I forgot to mention that I had a flood this year n my garden was under water for a week, but my front garden with corn, tom, cum beans, all look great, if I have some kinda disease what can I do for it? I have flushing ring around all my plant n flushed every plant with ph river water 2 days ago didn't seem to help, i'll give then a compost tea tomarrow, any idea u people got lets here um, I don't think a picture will help,, it looks like something is eating at my plants

 

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outlawjohn78

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• Jul 7, 2020

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outlawjohn78

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• Jul 7, 2020

• #7

Here's some pics of his damage

 

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bottomland

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• Jul 7, 2020

• #8

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thanks john, what the pic. don't show, is the new growth on the plant that were infected earlier r gone, just a skeletonized leaf or just nothing there,,,, poof n there gone

 

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bottomland

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• Jul 7, 2020

• #9

know one has any idea's,,, wow

 

WHIPEDMEAT

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• Jul 7, 2020

• #10

+ problem is not only the bugs, they are vectors for viruses/fungi/mold/bacterias



i would use something in combination for both, you can t do much against viruses tho

deformed growths are sign of something more than critters

 

Switcher56

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• Jul 7, 2020

• #11

leaf miners perhaps?

 

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bottomland

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• Jul 8, 2020

• #12

WHIPEDMEAT said:

+ problem is not only the bugs, they are vectors for viruses/fungi/mold/bacterias



i would use something in combination for both, you can t do much against viruses tho

deformed growths are sign of something more than critters

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thanks for the input,, I chopped everything, got a few friend that r going to give me a few smaller plants n hope i have no problems

 

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TanzanianMagic

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• Jul 9, 2020

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It looks like the damage from several insects:

- leafhoppers
- grasshoppers
- spidermites

On the other hand, if the plants just keep growing... The strategy against insects is

- water and feed less
- have other plants around to serve as a distraction, especially small flowered plants attract insects with carniverous larvae (hover flies, wasps)
- spray beneficial bacteria on the plants, so the insects become allies and track around Subtilis and mycorrhizal fungi, instead of mildew and botrytis.