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Cannabis strains for insomnia?

clearheaded

Active member
oh maple leaf indica, or i forgot to mention black tuna. there is herijuana in it if net is correct. but a knock out forsure. bedrocan dutch and canadian medical grower uses herijuana and herijuanax afgan for the bedica strain. ;)

ive found some cbd oral or smoked really helps take off any heart racing which is super helpful.

also may have said this but oral or suppository is really a better way to get better sleep! longer acting and after the liver pass man edibles make it hard to do anything but rest.
 

JustSumTomatoes

Indicas make dreams happen
So herijuana seems like a good one that keeps getting brought up. Sounds like a real insomnia buster but God is that a terrible name. Any recommendations for breeders of this strain?
 

JustSumTomatoes

Indicas make dreams happen
So as far as tinctures are concerned, is it really important to use mostly indica plants for sleepiness or does it really not even matter if it is sativa leaning or not since the uptake process is completely different than smoking it?
 

Gizmo

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So as far as tinctures are concerned, is it really important to use mostly indica plants for sleepiness or does it really not even matter if it is sativa leaning or not since the uptake process is completely different than smoking it?

im not a specialist of extraction but i think its better if you have the plant with the right effect in the first place.
In a home made decarboxylation you always loose some terpenes and possibly convert THC to CBN if heated too high or too longer, but still, a cerebral sativa hybrid (or pure sativa) plant dercarboxylated will not transform into a couchlock or sleepy effect extract i think unless you loose all the terpenes and degrade a lot of the THC into CBN.

You can experiment an extract from sativa leaning plant if its the only strain you have access to, maybe you will find it will do the job for you.
personnaly most of the time i only smoke sativa dominant haze hybrids and i sleep like a baby, just a mater of dosage, im still searching a strain with the effect of cocaine :biggrin:

EDIT : in fact i was reading a little more about CBN, im not researching the sedative effect too much in cannabis for myself but i just read CBN is good for insomnia so as CBN comes from degradation of THC maybe it will be interest you. as i said THC degrade to CBN when you decarb too much. again im not a specialist of extraction so maybe what im telling is not totally acurate. here are some links. all the best to you

https://skunkpharmresearch.com/decarboxylation/

https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/what-is-cbn-and-what-are-the-benefits-of-this-cannabinoid
 
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Shmavis

Being-in-the-world
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Been looking myself for a great knockout artist. Looking forward to seeing the recommendations.

I see Herijuana being brought up a lot and have seen it mentioned a lot in other similar discussions. Tried to get some a couple years ago but it was out of stock. Might have to look around again.

I have some Pre-98 that I absolutely love. But it doesn't come anywhere near knocking me out. Have the following started with the hopes of finding that elusive one:

Tahoe OG X Afghani
Atomic Shiva
Hash Plant X Blockhead

Best of luck with your search!
 

JustSumTomatoes

Indicas make dreams happen
Thanks again Gizmo for your time and research. It really is appreciated. The reason I keep mentioning hybrids is because they tend to express vigor and hardiness and it seems like it can be difficult to find something that is entirely indica, or sativa for that matter. It appears many outdoor growers in the north like to have at least a little bit of sativa in with their plants as it can add a bit of mold resistance and strength.

Ideally I would want a tough as nails plant that needed little care, finished early and was disease/mold resistant while still giving the desired effect. From what I've been able to find, hybrids like Canadian strains would work well. Mr. Nice's Shark Shock and NORDLE both are skunk/hybrid based, which would make sense given they are said to perform well at northern latitudes.

What I've produced in the past was definitely skunk/hybrid influenced and I only found a fleck of mold on one of the cola buds at the end.

Just taking notice to what I'm seeing and trying to weigh out my options and find a balance between what will grow well in my climate and what will produce the desired effect. If my locality was more pot friendly I would do outdoors just for fun and really focus on finding that one magic cut to grow indoors.
 

Gizmo

Member
You're welcome J, you're right about hybrids, they have many good traits for outdoor growers, pure indica dense buds can have mold so i think the sativas genes always help, pure indica effects are a bit boring to me and it often leave me with an hangover the next day.

I understand your need for your outdoor grow, i dont know what kind of climate you have thats why i advised you the shark shock for your latitude, im sure it will perform well and its an early indica dominant strain with good mold resistance and more importantly quality buds covered of resin. NORDLE is good too and it has even maybe a bit sleepier effect than the shark, NORDLE is a bit less early than the shark (except some rare phenotype) and NORDLE could be a little more sensitive to wet climate so as its often said beware of the rain.

Canadian outdoor strains were bred for the great outdoor in Canada so im sure they are resistant and early strains but im not sure of the end product quality compared to shark shock for example, i cant tell i have no experience with outdoor Canadian strains. here is a forum with Canadian genetics and outdoor growers if you wish to explore. http://unleashdagreen.net/forums/forum.php?

At your latitude im sure you can grow some nice genetics, an early indica dominant hybrid should be your better choice in your case but you will have to choose one who perform well outdoor thats an important point. as i said in another post Ortega is number one strain on my list for insomnia but it will poorly perform at my latitude and climate and at yours too i think, it will be good indoor so not a good choice for outdoor grower like us i think. im afraid the very indica profile from Ortega will make it a very sensitive strain to mold.

By the way pure skunk is very sensitive to mold too but it has many other good traits thats why we see it as a parent in many outdoor (and indoor) lines.

You could explore another way too, the autoflowering strains, they are often indica dominant strains and for the earliness you cant find better choice. last year i was very interested about autos, i read a lot about it at this forum https://www.autoflower.net/forums/

check out mephisto genetics, his strains looks very very good. forget about dutch passion and dina fems.

Autos used to have a bad reputation but it was years ago when its was the first crosses with ruderalis indica strain low in THC, now autoflowering strains have been line bred for several generations and selected for high THC content so the quality is often as better as photoperiod strains (depends of the breeder) on the other hand i will definitly stay away from strain like Think Different from dutch passion. mephisto has some killer autos in my search.
 
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Sorry to hear about your insomnia. It truly sucks. I've heard most afghanis are really good for it. By any chance have you had any experience with Northern Lights? I know it's an oldschool strain but when I used to be able to buy it, it was helpful as well as the many Blueberry variants going around the area at the time.

Sorry just seen this I have tried northern lights x white widow.got me stoned
But didn't sleep.my m8's were sleeping after half a joint think I need to try what suits me best.so the indica hunt is on.
 

JustSumTomatoes

Indicas make dreams happen
Sorry just seen this I have tried northern lights x white widow.got me stoned
But didn't sleep.my m8's were sleeping after half a joint think I need to try what suits me best.so the indica hunt is on.

White Widow always got me high but never really made me feel sleepy at all. If you can get a Northern lights IBL or one crossed with an Afghani it will get you really stoned.
 

JustSumTomatoes

Indicas make dreams happen
Sorry just seen this I have tried northern lights x white widow.got me stoned
But didn't sleep.my m8's were sleeping after half a joint think I need to try what suits me best.so the indica hunt is on.

White Widow always got me high but never really made me feel sleepy at all. If you can get a Northern lights IBL or one crossed with an Afghani it will get you really stoned.
 

TerpeneDream

Active member
I would definitely thing Indica is the way.

Pre '98 Bubba Kush always put me down. Too mellow, heavy, and indica like high for daytime. Would imagine it would be good for insomnia..
 
I would definitely thing Indica is the way.

Pre '98 Bubba Kush always put me down. Too mellow, heavy, and indica like high for daytime. Would imagine it would be good for insomnia..

Yes I have read about pre98 bubba kush & it's suppossed to be great for insomnia.
But clone only.
 

Grojak

Active member
get a vaporizer man, shit knocks me out so much more vaping...

Sensi star but good luck finding a cut legit cut, took me 6 months of hunting. I find good sleep relief in Purp Urkle too..
 

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