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Old 01-09-2019, 12:28 AM #1
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Forgiving cheap nutrients

So... The nutrient i had been using ( sea grow) has had the formula changed. It was part synthetic and part organic. Performed like organic on steroids. Just super easy. Fertigate it on every water and it just works. Never lock out, never burn, never deficiency. All strains. Even in a greenhouse in the middle of a heatwave. Just as easy as organic, but without the hassle of amending between runs and with faster growth. Just throw the powder in the dosatron tank with some home made cal mag and walk away. Once in a while flush with plain water. No ppm, no ph, no water purification.

I'm looking for a direct replacement for that style of growing. The old formula was Part water soluble organic N and Part nitrate N. They replaced the spray dried water soluble Blood meal with urea. So now it's just nitrate and urea.

Someone has to know of a replacement. that's dirt cheap, water soluble, and is crazy easy like that. And it wouldn't hurt to have a butt load of kelp in it like sea grow.
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Yuba! hey man not related to this post at all but I am trying to contact you, send me an email at z.chart12@yahoo.com

questions about greenhouse strucures, I have 2 24x100's going up next month would really like to pick your brain a bit before dropping any money. I currently run both indoor and greenhouse year round in the state of Maine!
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Cmon.. No one?
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Earth Juice use the Catalyst with the grow and bloom solution and you'll be glad. Can even use urine instead of the grow formula for even cheaper. I also like there Meta K and Microblast but these can substitute wood ash and flat beer for your K and micro nutes.

Never have had a burn with Earth Juice
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Unfortunately, Liquid earth juice is way way out of my price range. The only earth juice line that works in my price range is the sea blast powdered ferts. Urea is the #1 ingredient on the grow.
Its marketed to be a max sea or sea grow, but it's even trashier. Lol. I don't mind trash but not that trashy

And the regular liquid earth juice is great, but it's 2-1-1. So it's way out of my price range, and you have to use so much that i would imagine fertigating is harder.
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I know a few Cubans that use sunniland flower for there grows. Not sure how much per gal. It's cheap cheap. Definitely not organic but they grow really good stuff as far as commercial bud goes. I'm sure it would burn. You ever think of sourcing stuff from the land to make a good organic tea? If you hunt, fish, live close to the ocean etc there's all different free sources of P and K just gotta think outside the box. Where's an old timer chiming in at when you need them! Lol
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I'm not looking for organic. Not looking for synthetic. I'm looking for a synthetic that has a good bit of organic N in it and performs allot like an organic.

I definitely don't want to tea. Its to time consuming to make the tea and it can't be ran through fertigation. I don't even use tea in my organic grows anymore really. I have a huge 1000 gallon tea brewer wasting space.

Maybe i should suck it up and use the urea formula.
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I'm a little biased,, but I would say yeah man go with the urea
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You are biased to urea? Do you use a product that uses urea for your N?
Does anyone on here? For so many years i have been trying to use as little urea as possible. I'm thinking urea n is closer to organic n then nitrate or amonical.
Someone has to have an opinion on this.
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I don't use store bought urea, but I use pee. I dilute it 1:10. Has always performed for me just as well as any nutrient I have purchased. If you're interested check out my grow diary and read what klompen wrote he seems to really have it down.
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