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Eating raw cannabis for Fibromyalgia

filsgreen

New member
Hello friends!

This is my first post. First of all, let me thank you all for such a great community you created here. Living in a country where the doctors can't help with cannabis related questions, communities like this one are our best chance for learning.
My girlfriend have severe Fibromyalgia. After tons of hours of reading about the endocannabinoid system, cannabis in general and specially, after seeing that cannabis is what seems to work best for her, we decided to go that way all in. We are taking small steps into growing our own product so that we don't have to buy it. Soon (when I can harvest) we will try to make some edibles or cannabis infused coconut oil capsules to see if that way she can get a better sleep through the night.
Several days ago, we discovered that eating fresh raw cannabis is actually a thing and that it can be a whole therapy if one could eat around 600mg of THCA every day. The benefits seem to quick in in 4-8 weeks, and for us, it seems like a light at the end of the tunnel. First of all, THCA is not psychoactive. It won't fit into CB1 receptors, so the effects will not be cerebral, but that does not mean it will not interact with the body. THCA, CBDA and all the rest of canabinoids and terpenes will store in fat cells and regulate the body of someone with ECS deficiency. It sounds encouraging and gives us hope. I wish it would be true! For now, I would like to ask you, people with far more experience and knowledge in that matter what is your idea. Is that true? Could eating raw cannabis every day help regulate the ECS?
I'm trying to understand first if its worth a try because its something that for us is not easy to achieve. If we ever try it, I'm planning of planting one plant every week, for 12 weeks straight. After 12 weeks, I would have 12 plants, where the oldest one is about ready to be consumed, and maintaining that would provide us with one fresh plant for about every week. Easier said than done, but if we come to the conclusion that this is worth it, we will try.
I'm sorry for the long text. I'm just a desperate loving one in search of any kind of advice that could ease her pain. Please, if anyone could help us with something, we would be very thankful.
Thank you in advance.
Peace.
 

filsgreen

New member
Guys, I found those lab tests, that, instead of what I was thinking, are showing that the THCA is present in raw cured bud. I always thought that it degrades a lot into THC and then into CBN with time, light and room temperature. Now, those lab test are showing this is not the case, and only a very small amount will convert into THC. We dont know how long those buds were cured or other information, but that alone is enough to make me think about trying raw cured buds. What do you think?
Another question I have is: Do you think we can grind the herb very fine and put it into some gel capsules for intake, just the way it is, cured, without any fats? Will it get through the stomach acid barrier? I heard (at least for the THC) that in order for the cannabinoids to get to our blood through eating method, they must be covered in fat cells, otherwise they can be deteriorated by the stomach acid.
Thank you
 

CannaRed

Cannabinerd
I would think that to intake 600mg of THCA by ingesting herb would be A LOT of gelcaps.

I would suggest using kief, water hash, or concentrate if you decide to go the capsule route.
 

Tangwena

Well-known member
Veteran
Hello friends!

This is my first post. First of all, let me thank you all for such a great community you created here. Living in a country where the doctors can't help with cannabis related questions, communities like this one are our best chance for learning.
My girlfriend have severe Fibromyalgia. After tons of hours of reading about the endocannabinoid system, cannabis in general and specially, after seeing that cannabis is what seems to work best for her, we decided to go that way all in. We are taking small steps into growing our own product so that we don't have to buy it. Soon (when I can harvest) we will try to make some edibles or cannabis infused coconut oil capsules to see if that way she can get a better sleep through the night.
Several days ago, we discovered that eating fresh raw cannabis is actually a thing and that it can be a whole therapy if one could eat around 600mg of THCA every day. The benefits seem to quick in in 4-8 weeks, and for us, it seems like a light at the end of the tunnel. First of all, THCA is not psychoactive. It won't fit into CB1 receptors, so the effects will not be cerebral, but that does not mean it will not interact with the body. THCA, CBDA and all the rest of canabinoids and terpenes will store in fat cells and regulate the body of someone with ECS deficiency. It sounds encouraging and gives us hope. I wish it would be true! For now, I would like to ask you, people with far more experience and knowledge in that matter what is your idea. Is that true? Could eating raw cannabis every day help regulate the ECS?
I'm trying to understand first if its worth a try because its something that for us is not easy to achieve. If we ever try it, I'm planning of planting one plant every week, for 12 weeks straight. After 12 weeks, I would have 12 plants, where the oldest one is about ready to be consumed, and maintaining that would provide us with one fresh plant for about every week. Easier said than done, but if we come to the conclusion that this is worth it, we will try.
I'm sorry for the long text. I'm just a desperate loving one in search of any kind of advice that could ease her pain. Please, if anyone could help us with something, we would be very thankful.
Thank you in advance.
Peace.
My friend try cob style curing your buds no need to decarb anything and its totally effective just chewing a very small amount a quarter to half a gram will medicate you for 8hrs if the buds were good in the first place I have a link to the recipe below.
 

gatts

Active member
Cannabis leaf, trim, bud is excellent to add to smoothies, just throw a handful in with everything else, everyday.

Use defoliation techniques on all your plants, no need to wait until maturity to start. Lots of clones will help.

Go for a 1:1 varietal.

Good luck brother.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
I look up the definition of Fibromyalgia in websearches and ...

it's related to the immune system & involves chronic pain,
MAYBE sort of like Arthritis.

How come I never heard about Fibromyalgia when I was a kid, or in college, etc ?

First case I heard about was a Christian friend whose wife had it, so he was usually alone at social gatherings.

Is Fibromyalgia a new thing, or a new name for a condition that has always existed ?

Anyway, Cannabis is good for non-specific physical chronic pain, in the body that is.

Don't know about raw Cannabis.
 

EsterEssence

Well-known member
Veteran
Fibromyalgia from what I have learned is mis firing nerves, similar to neuropathy, except it is all over the body, not just the feet and hands...
 

Tudo

Troublemaker
Moderator
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Isn't it mostly the thc or synergy between thc and cbd that helps with pain, nerve or otherwise?


To activate the thc doesn't it have to be burned, cooked etc?


Eager to learn and wish you all the best
 

I wood

Well-known member
Isn't it mostly the thc or synergy between thc and cbd that helps with pain, nerve or otherwise?


To activate the thc doesn't it have to be burned, cooked etc?


Eager to learn and wish you all the best

Yes, decarboxylation is needed for psychoactive effects, but it can give anti inflammatory/pain relieving effects without much buzz when eaten raw.
That is the point isn’t it. To get relief without being stoned out of your mind all the time.
Two easy ways came out of two different people i worked with interested in raw cannabis. First, just stored like lettuce in crisper drawer and eaten on salad and incorporated into diet as convenient. The second was pulverized and frozen in ice cube trays, then blended into smoothies as needed.

Topical with cbd/thc ratio of 1:1 added at 200 mgs per ounce, also worked well for fibromyalgia pain but was needed in larger than usual amounts due to being used on many body parts.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
Fibromyalgia from what I have learned is mis firing nerves, similar to neuropathy, except it is all over the body, not just the feet and hands...

I never heard about it until the late 90's. EVER.

Is it literally a new condition, or just a new name for a condition that's been around ?
 

bibi40

Well-known member
I never heard about it until the late 90's. EVER.

Is it literally a new condition, or just a new name for a condition that's been around ?




i have a friend who had this shit , her doctor said that' s been around before but they don' t point it and named it before ...


:tiphat:
 

EsterEssence

Well-known member
Veteran
I didn’t hear much about neuropathy until I got it about 10 years ago. You are totally correct I never heard of it either, so either there was not enough cases or a new name for different symptoms. All I know is they have nothing to repair or treat the nerves...
 

Drewsif

Member
Depends on the Cannabis whether it will help her. You cant generalize the plant anymore. Cannabis is no longer medicine. Some Cannabis is medicine. Thc and terpenes are not effective medicine.

She's likely not deficiency in EC, anyone who can form sentences or walk down the block without melting a hole in their head has ECs, but strong connections aren't being facilitated by associated fatty acid esters, most of which have been bred out of modern Cannabis in favor of visual aspects, pointless marketing numerics and short bloom.

Sorry I don't know what fatty acids she needs. The only people doing research on the fatty acid derivatives of old school Cannabis and their effects on endocannabinoid activity have patents on the brain. You'll have to dig through something pre cookie era stock and have it grown decently (no hydro) because the shit at the weed store has no medical value.
 

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