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This is exactly how I feel when I think of people voting for Bernie or Hillary. After Obummer I have had enough of the communist American hating agenda being jammed down my throat.
It's a sad day when being proud to be an American is considered racist or offensive to all of the immigrant trash. We would have no freedom if it was not for our constitutional rights. This country was created by men that had the balls to stand up for what they believed in when the British became too pushy.
So for all of the gun hating anti free speech PC liberals, there would not be such freedoms if it were not for guns and men willing to speak their minds. The second amendment protects the first
Although Trump may be the brightest of a very sorry lot, Mrs. Babba I wouldn't worry too much about him getting elected. And Jhnn, I wouldn't get too upset by this bunch of knuckle dragers. They won't even vote.
Bernie was out trick or treating last night with his grandchildren, all adopted Chinese kids by his son Levi, in Lebanon, N.H., almost in my neighborhood. I wonder what Trump would look like trailing around after some kids on Halloween.
Bernie was out trick or treating last night with his grandchildren, all adopted Chinese kids by his son Levi, in Lebanon, N.H., almost in my neighborhood. I wonder what Trump would look like trailing around after some kids on Halloween.
Exactly, Cannavore...on another thread, he's called as "Marxist". Wish people would really listen or dig for the truth rather than spewing something they heard (and undoubtedly skewed!).
Yeah, he has 'radical' ideas, but they make sense!
IF he were a Communist or a Marxist, would be have been elected for years?
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all you guys gotta do is look up where he started as a political militant, and that's it...
then, just look at his would-be policies, and then be honest with yourselves and say the guy is not a communist...
the guy wants to re-distribute wealth "fairly", take from the haves to give to the have-nots, he wants to do it by enforcing laws; what will happen when those laws he wants enforced are not obeyed? just take a guess? um... what does this smell like?
(not teen spirits! lol)wow the amount of blindness is ridiculous here...
Bernie Sanders is a real person. Donald Trump is a media persona, a propaganda construct, a showman & a charlatan.
The right wing rhetoric of resentment, rage & denial is obviously extremely intoxicating for some people. Apparently addictive as well.
The ideology of the Right was ascendant for decades, culminating in the Bush Admin & Repub Congress. Even though that didn't work out nearly as well as they claimed it would, Righties refuse to reconsider what they believe in, simply becoming more fervent in their Faith.
It's really quite sad to see people's best qualities turned against them.
lets take his ATM charges policy... he thinks government should regulate it... however, in real freedom, the charges are regulated by competition. you want lower atm charges? take your business to the bank that charges the less for atm transactions. no need for big government "looking out" for you...
what happens when Bernie starts taxing your transactions as well?
what happens when he feels he has re-distributed the wealth equally enough?
think this through guys, don't vote based on emotions and how nice a speech may sound...
what happens when Bernie starts taxing your transactions as well?
what happens when he feels he has re-distributed the wealth equally enough?
think this through guys, don't vote based on emotions and how nice a speech may sound...
also, don't vote basing yourself on some sort of imaginary allegiance you think you owe to the democrats just because they use the word 'democracy' a lot lol... or because you dislike the republicans.
the world needs a serious person leading the U.S now... not some dude worrying about ATM charges...
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I took the second quote somewhat out of context, but I just have to ask, bombadil.360, does this mean you consider Trump to be "a serious person"?
Because I don't. I betcha a pack of rolling papers he's gonna be one of the first ones to drop out, because the election is still a long way off.
fair question, Jellyfish,
but no, I don't consider any of the choices you have serious, but honestly, anyone is more serious than Bernie out of the non-serious choices you guys have.
Bernie will bring your country to the lowest he can with all that silly "lets take from the rich to give to the poor" plain old communism.
I wonder how many of you would feel if someone tried to enforce laws so that your harvests should be 'fairly' distributed among "the people" LOL...
and like I said, I have zero political affiliations, could not care less about republicans or democrats or what have you... I'm just here telling you from personal experience, from seeing the country where I was born and raised get totally destroyed by people of the same exact school of thought as Bernie...
peace
but no, I don't consider any of the choices you have serious, but honestly, anyone is more serious than Bernie out of the non-serious choices you guys have.
Bernie will bring your country to the lowest he can with all that silly "lets take from the rich to give to the poor" plain old communism.
I wonder how many of you would feel if someone tried to enforce laws so that your harvests should be 'fairly' distributed among "the people" LOL...
and like I said, I have zero political affiliations, could not care less about republicans or democrats or what have you... I'm just here telling you from personal experience, from seeing the country where I was born and raised get totally destroyed by people of the same exact school of thought as Bernie...
peace
And again he does disservice to himself for using Scandinavia as an example when the US has its own history of democratic socialism.
Okay so lets put a speculative tax on wall street transactions so we can have tuition free higher public education in this country and get rid of the free trade deals which gutted tens of thousands of factoriesfrom this country like Bernie Sanders has proposed. Incremental minimum wage increase and a trillion in domestic infrastructure spending would help too as again he has proposed.
Of course taxes must be "raised" to get this done, but most of what would go into raised taxes are stuff you're already buying into (health care is one).
Define communism or tell me how Sanders (or even Obama) are communists? Or even socialists lol cause they are neither. Especially Obama he's a fuckin centrist all day long.
Not only do we need immigrants to keep our economy afloat, but there has been almost zero net growth of Mexican migrants into the US since 2010. In the regions that aren't narco controlled, they built tuition free universities, lowered the crime and murder rate and are churning out almost as many engineers as the US does.
These people flee their homes so they don't get their heads chopped off just to come here and pick melons for shit wages. There's an interesting experiment Alabama did. They kicked all their migrant workers out of the state threatening with harsh deportation crack downs or something... And guess what, Alabama's farms pretty much haulted overnight because the farms couldn't hire hard working whites/blacks/Americans that could work as good as the Mexicans doing back breaking work. Vice on HBO actually did a story on it.
So lets elect an establishment candidate to give more socialism to the rich, further protect corporate personhood, deny climate change, and fuck over the shrinking middle class some more by cutting more benefits.
Or we can elect someone with a head on their shoulders and the most concise plan and ideas for this country in Bernie Sanders, which would actually save this country some money over a 10 year period.
Lol. You're a funny man Jhhnn. 20-30 years ago it was unfathomable that a person that identified as an avowed Socialist would even be considered to run for president of the Democratic. Funny how democratic ideas/values change given enough time.
You were the one who corrected me and said, "Ideologically speaking he calls himself a democratic socialist which differs from true socialism."
You emphasized he identifies as a democratic socialist. If you identify as a socialist you're a socialist. My comment emphasized that you can add democrat, republican, whatever in front of something and it's still what it is. The whole lipstick on a pig thing. You can't subscribe to just the "good" parts of an idea and be stupid enough to realize the rest won't go along with it when you get the ball rolling. It doesn't work that way.
Typical democrat blather. Call anyone with a differing opinion names, racist, uninformed, rightie's, tea baggers, knuckle dragger, etc. Some of us evolve politically, some us even look at both sides, current events, what led up to them and come to a conclusion of our own. Blindly following 1 ideology is really kinda stupid and and the kind of loyalty both main parties demand of their koolaid drinkers void of original thought. I know, I know. Damn thinking for yourself when an entire political party can tell you what you need to believe and damn it that's just the way it is. Either you're a minion or a free thinker.
I do vote and always have. I look at the 3rd and 4th parties tho because the 2 main ones have gotten the country into so much shit a continent sized scooper couldn't clear away the partisan bullshit.
Why not? He's been elected as a Socialist for years in Vermont.
When others truth don't match with yours it isn't truth is it?
Yes and because america has gone so far right, you and millions of others view a progressive as a socialist.
Really? Obama has been elected twice, the candidates on the right are jokes, Dems will probably win the Presidency again, and the country has gone so far to the right??
And seriously, if a "Progressive CALLS himself a "Socialist", he's a Socialist.
"Define socialism and explain how Bernie Sanders is a socialist other than saying he personally identifies as a socialist,"
Seriously? You read that after you typed it right? Makes my argument for me.
If he personally identifies as a socialist HE"S A SOCIALIST. That was easy
Twice now you've admitted Bernie has done a disservice to himself for one thing or another. He's stated what he believes to be true. He's expressed his philosophy and what he'd like to model the US system on. In every case it's a Socialist society.
If he is doing such a disservice to himself with what he believes, what makes you think his ideas wouldn't be a disservice to American citizens if elected?
EDITED to add---I would not dispute that there are serious problems with our country. And I do agree with a lot of what's been said. But the problems we have have been caused by the 2 main parties. Remember, those evil rich didn't get the legal protections, tax breks, and loop holes they have without both parties paving the way for them. There's no denying that fact. And what has been done about it? Nothing but going to the voting booth and electing the same offenders back into office over and over. The definition of insanity at its best.
We have well over 18 trillion of debt. A bill just cleared the Senate that has NO spending cap nor a way to pay down the debt. NO SPENDING CAP!!! Giving these same lackies the freedom to spend, spend, spend. How are we going to repay that? We're not and they know it. Both parties are driving the country into bankruptcy.
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On a positive note, Bernie Sanders is 4 years off the struggle. He proposes to apply a band-aid to a deeply lacerated wound. It will still leak blood everywhere, but it is a start in closing the injury. Trump wouldn’t do anything! Dr. Ben Carson would amputate it. America can’t afford to lose a leg or suffer from blood loss. END THE US CANNABIS BUREAUCRACY! The real answer to the problem is fixing congress, federalizing cannabis as a commodity, and letting people have it like prior to 1936 - instilling the same federal rights that any business selling it would have.
If we had federalization, SEC could have protected San Jose, CA's medical marijuana market from the city.
If we had federalization, the state of CA could be sued punitive damages for AB266, SB643, etc. (in my opinion that should be how things are handled, but the lawmakers set the change)
If we had federalization, SEC could have protected San Jose, CA's medical marijuana market from the city.
If we had federalization, the state of CA could be sued punitive damages for AB266, SB643, etc. (in my opinion that should be how things are handled, but the lawmakers set the change)
Democrats have actually been more radical at times in the past, particularly during the Great Depression & the Progressive era. TR was part of the latter but he wouldn't even be considered to be a Republican by modern standards.
They used different words to describe it but the ideas & values are very much the same.
They're very much the same as many of the Founders, as well, despite the fake quotes to the contrary-
http://fakefoundersquotes.tumblr.com/post/89397760173/when-the-people-find-they-can-vote-themselves
OMFG!
You need to study up on Obama, the dude has been hanging with commies his whole life.
His mentor as a child and most likely his real father was a man named Frank Marshal Davis, FMD was a known communist, he promoted communism and was heavily involved in the movement. FMD was not only a communist he was a pornographer that took many pornographic pictures of Obamma mother, this is why there is a high likely hood FMD is his real father, Obummer and FMD actual look alike look at some pictures. This guy got Obama started in the life of a radical communist.
Not only that Obummer was also friends with Bill Ayers, a known communist terrorist from the 60s and 70s. Fuckin Obummer invited Bill Ayers to the god damned white house.
Now you tell me we need more immigrants, ok maybe a few but we dont need open borders. Nor should my fuckin tax dollars pay for them to do anything, take gander at how many illegals are on the US welfare system them come tell me how much we need them. You think they're coming here because they love to pick oranges? no they are coming here because the US gov rolls out the red carpet and gives them everything for free. You get over that border and you pop out a baby and that baby is now a US citizen entitled to full benefits, it's more lucrative then working.
China, Soviet Union, North Vietnam, North Korea, just a few reasons why we dont need any more communism. You've been suckered by the promise of free stuff, you know nothing in life is free. If I invite you over for dinner, yes that dinner is free for you but I still had to buy all the food, this is why no government handout is truly free, the bill gets picked up by someone.
Now you tell me I should joyfully pay more taxes? Do you even have a tax paying job? if you do how could you honestly want to pay more taxes? Please dont make decisions for my money, ok? I don't want to pay the kind of taxes it takes to support a socialist fantasy land. Norway the country Sanders loves to use as an example pays 55% income tax and 25% VAT which is like a sales tax, corporate profits tax is from 28%-78% why even bother working at that point. I am far enough a long in life where the government wont be giving me anything for that kind of taxes, this will only benefit the people in a position to take people with their shit together already will just be paying for everyone else.
Fucking Sanders was just praising China the other day, china is a fucking shit hole that absolutely does not value human life or human rights, they pollute with out thought, the government owns and runs all industry, yeah that sounds awesome.
Another issue I have with Sanders is he's a draft dodger, so many men fought and died fighting against communism in North Vietnam, and this POS hit the road to Canada, for this reason alone he should be excluded from running. If you elect a man like Sanders you admit all the lives lost in Vietnam were for nothing, the very political ideals they fought are now here running for president.
Not to offend you, but we are just on different wave lengths, I wont even try to convince you. IMO all of the candidates suck for the most part, but Bernie or Hillary no fucking way anyone but them.
There is so many issues the US is facing right now, from radical climate change, immigration, a crippled economy, a stock market on the edge of collapse, unfathomable debt, another major war, and so many suckers here are willing to drop a vote for the promise of pot, as if pot isnt free enough already, jesus christ, so easily bought some people are.
You forgot the years he lived with his grandparents who also identified as Communist.
Forgot to mention he sought out Marxist professors-Obama's words not mine.
He joined the New Party which was formed by the Democratic Socialist of America.
Obama's Socialist/Communist roots do run deep whether anyone agrees or not. It's the way he was raised as a child and their influences were heavy in his life.
Forgot to mention he sought out Marxist professors-Obama's words not mine.
He joined the New Party which was formed by the Democratic Socialist of America.
Obama's Socialist/Communist roots do run deep whether anyone agrees or not. It's the way he was raised as a child and their influences were heavy in his life.
Let us begin with the fact that Bernie applied for conscientious objector status during the draft, like Mitt Romney. He never fled to Canada.
The Bill Ayers who visited the Whitehouse isn't that Bill Ayers.
The rest is just slanderous labeling of anybody left of the John Birch Society as OMFG! COMMUNIST!
Anybody with an internet connection & the slightest bit of curiosity can verify that with ease. Well, unless they have an irrational emotional need not to.
The Bill Ayers who visited the Whitehouse isn't that Bill Ayers.
The rest is just slanderous labeling of anybody left of the John Birch Society as OMFG! COMMUNIST!
Anybody with an internet connection & the slightest bit of curiosity can verify that with ease. Well, unless they have an irrational emotional need not to.
Lay off the crack, it is the same Bill Ayers you fool.
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