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Old 11-12-2015, 01:00 AM #1
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Question Blumats with botanicare nutes

I'm about to go out of town in a few weeks for a week or so, and thought now is the best time to maybe jump on the Blumat train! So I'm getting all the Blumat stuff soon in the mail. And yes, I did read most of that 247 page novel on blumats! Good read, but WHOA, it's a lot to take in! Hahahaha!

Anyway, I have a few questions about the res and nutes.

1) do you guys think it'll work out running pbp soil, FF bigbloom, calmag, sweet, and hydroplex thru the Blumat system? I know I should get some drip clean too, from what I read. Probably gonna get some.

2) gonna be using a 32 gal Brute as a res but only plan on having up to 5 to 10 gal of mixed nutes in it. So, what's the best way to keep it circulating and mixed properly? Simple air stone?

3) once I do get it circulating and staying mixed well, how bad, if any, will the pH swing?

Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. 🙂
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Old 11-12-2015, 05:54 AM #2
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Best way to run blumats is to have a larger feed line.
They sell 3mm barbs you can punch into a larger fed line "1/2", 3/4" whatever you need dictated by plant count.
This way if you have a clog, it's easy to massage the 3mm drip line.

You could drop a small pump into the brute to move the solution around.
An air stone will make your ph drift up too btw.

As far as normal ph swing in your rig, depends on your source water tbh.
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What size pump do you think I should get? Should I run it on a timer? Temps in room where res is located is always around 68F. Not sure if pump would heat up solution.

I've got plenty of extra 3mm line coming. Sounds like I need to get some 3/32" barbs for them. I'm only running 5 plants on the Blumat setup. Do you still think I need to upgrade the feed line to a larger diameter? I also ordered some Superflex 8mm tubing to replace the shitty stiff black feed line.
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Any size will do IMO , you're only moving solution around in the res, no head (water rise) on the pump to wear her down.

The larger feed line just keeps things from clogging too easily, if you're only running a few plants, you'll prolly be ok with the 8mm tbh.
You could put it on a cycle timer or a regular timer if you want.

I've had res temps get close to 80 with no ill effects with top feed.
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An airstone will not make your ph drift up unless you have bacteria and the added oxygen is fueling their growth by the way. Just wanted to clear that up. Having run DWC a LOT, I can run a res for a full 2 weeks without more than a 0.2 change in PH.

I also run an air pump for about 8 hours every time before I use a 5 gal bucket of city water to evap the chlorine (chlorine, not chloramine) and the ph doesn't change at all. If it does, as I said, that's a different bacteria related problem. The bacteria growth will spike your ph.
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Thx for the advice, frank. Sounds like I'm on the right track. Just never messed with a res in the 15 yrs I've been growing. Gonna get a timer and turn the pump on for 15 min every hour. Hopefully pH stays around 6.5, I'm using tap that sits out for 24 hrs before mixing nutes in it.

One other thing, the bottom of res is only 2ft above top of containers. I know the higher the more pressure, but do you think that'll be high enough? I estimate the feed line should only be 12ft max looping from and back to res.
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An airstone will not make your ph drift up unless you have bacteria and the added oxygen is fueling their growth by the way. Just wanted to clear that up. Having run DWC a LOT, I can run a res for a full 2 weeks without more than a 0.2 change in PH.
So you think I should add it? If so, think I can put it on the pump timer? Or should I run the air stone constantly?
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I also use PBP, and a 30 gal resevoir, but with drippers, not sure what the blumat drip hole size looks like (as far as clogging goes)

I use the smallest water pump i could find at the hydro shop, and a couple air stones. Without the small pump, the solids seem to "settle out". The pump keeps everything well mixed For SURE! highly recommended.

The pH stays steady when I mix with RO, but seems to drift wildly, daily, when using tap water (8.0 pH to start). The RO seems to come out more neutral and, "pH naked"..
fwiw, I mix PBP Bloom Soil, CalMag+, and Protekt. stays within 0.1pH for a week.
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So you think I should add it? If so, think I can put it on the pump timer? Or should I run the air stone constantly?
run small pump and air stones BOTH and Continuously.
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run small pump and air stones BOTH and Continuously.
Looking at getting a 100 gph/5 watt pump. If I run it constantly, how much do you think it would heat up the 5 to 10 gal res if temps in res area stay 68F? Would it be a problem?
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