Plummeting Marijuana Prices for Growers

SooperSmurph said:

CO is already hitting nasty lows as people with mountains of mediocre medicine try to unload it.

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"Mediocre" is in the eyes of the biased and arrogant observer.

My hand trimmed H&G is going for 2200-2500/lb, same as the big machine trimmed canna fed batches coming out of the patient cooperative I assist, I can move zs at 175-200, but that only gets rid of a pound a month at the very most.

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Yep. And I'm laughing my ass off about it. It does not take a brain surgeon to understand that this would happen, and will only get worse for you. The whole "artisan hand trimming" bullshit will be one of the first things to die off in a legal market. Your meticulous hand trimming does not make the bud smoke better, as much as the pot snobs try to fool themselves that it does. Who the fuck is going to pay $3000+ lb for marijuana when they can get the exact same thing for less? Within ten years cannabis will be $200/lb. What then?

Just wait until somebody tiphat starts flooding the market with pallet after pallet of high quality cannabis cigarettes. If you think things are bad now, can you imagine how much your life is going to suck when 90% of your customers prefer to buy "pre roll" rather than meticulously break up buds and roll shitty joints?

As producers cost decrease, due to efficiency increases, stubborn mules who are stuck in the past will have one of two options: a) find a way to keep up, or b) go bankrupt. I wonder which one you'll choose?

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Prices going up locally...Manitoba...

Used to be $600 a qp, now $700 for the same qp of quality bud. $2000/lb has turned into $2400/lb also over the last couple of years...

More variety now tho for your avg user...if you like KUSH ....more issues with seeds also....used to be you would find 1-2 a year.....now it is 1-2 every month... I suspect too many people are using fem seed and having more hermi issues....

I know a few growers who have gotten out of the biz after looking at the changes to the mandatory minimums here in Canada..Not worth the risk for a small room..

I'm with the bandito on this one, and I'll stick with my shaggy bud. I had a guy reject me as a caregiver because my bud wasn't trimmed to his specifications. I told him to fuck off. The real patients with legit illnesses don't care what it looks like, they just want relief.

blastfrompast said:

I know a few growers who have gotten out of the biz after looking at the changes to the mandatory minimums here in Canada..Not worth the risk for a small room..

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what changed with the laws? so now its more illegal to have a 5 light grow in your house versus a 150 light DG or MMC?

Frito, you really are quite rude.

"I can't wait for your income to dry up."

Have fun with dreams of Philip Morris Jrs flooding the market, but the only people who will enjoy that shit will be teenagers buying it illegally. Keep sitting there being the bitter, hateful thing you are, and see how far that takes you in this industry.

Mud Boy, saying patients deserve shit meds so you can save time or money on trimming, I don't even know what to say of that in relation to calling yourself a "Care" giver.

I think some people might be forgetting that mexican import rules the market, period. 100 at the border, 400 in the midwest and that market is going strong since been....

Would you consider, Frito, that the notion of leaves smoked with your nug tasting as well as smoking pure flower and minimal leaves would require a pallet re-calibration?

Quality is being lost due to low prices but I find that growing my best and meticulously trimming gets me a better price. The time and effort is still rewarded and appreciated by my patients and co-ops.

We do have a glut of low quality cannabis but there are still growers who take pride in their work and hopefully quality will win out over quantity.

A cottage industry needs to be maintained for medical users and recreational use as well. We can make the laws as we choose if enough of us care.

I've been in the business I'm in for 30 years. There are dealers who deal in $25 dollar widgets and dealers like myself who specialize in $100,000.00 and up rarities.

In the lower categories there's always a battle to the bottom, who is going to sell for $5 bucks less then the next guy and use that loss ( they think ) to gain a new customer and then over time sell them what you really want to sell them. It rarely worlks. Cheap widgets cheap customers.

I started specializing in the bigger stuff 23 years ago after getting my brains beat in by the beat you to the bottom crowd. We've made millions and are ready to retire while the beat em to the bottom crowd? They're still there, beating beating beating. Keep beating!

There will always be a buyer for true quality and there will always be a buyer who is willing to pay, in some cases whatever it takes to get the best. Always. It's your choice who you wish to deal with. It's your choice what level of quality, whatever the product may be to deal in. Some like Bergdorf Goodman, Neiman Marcus etc. Some...........don't.

P.S. I'm one of those buyers willing to pay whatever it takes to get the best by the way.

Z-ro said:

I think some people might be forgetting that mexican import rules the market, period. 100 at the border, 400 in the midwest and that market is going strong since been....

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damn its down to 100 now? last time i was out in tucson it was around 400

still a rip

funny thread, funny perceptions, makes me think

back in the late 90's beasters were wholesaling for low 2s (coming over the boarder at 1200/lb)

now it coming from Cali, much of a difference? nope

commercial is commercial, pretty much that simple

Bottom line its supply and demand properly trimmed herb fetches more .... then machine trimmed ... more n more growers are also flooding the markets trying to make a buck remember how many are unemployed in USA
so prices will change High criminal gangs flood the market...... or buy everything up and sit on it it a multi billion dollar business and were small peas in the pot compared to ????
Bottom line more pounds you got less it goes out comercially speaking again its not about what you get for a pound its how much you get for 50 - 100 pounds not that many people can afford a pound let alone 50 - 100 but can guarntee you when unloading more and like the sayings goes more you buy the cheaper it gets around my neck of the woods its as low as 400 - 1200 for outdoor a pound to indoor from 1400- 3400 a pound but remember more a person buys or wants the prices drop and in my books i will lower prices to unload 10 pounds now then pound here or there
i sleep better knowing there is no bags in the freezer from getting robbed / shot , or arrested

Good point. Growing continuous production produces about a lb a week. Getting the best price is a combination of the presentation and the quality of the product.

Having a relationship with a club and a local market for your exclusive product makes a difference.

Overall prices are down in CA but the best still gets a premium price. My sour bubble for example is in great demand and there is never enough. If they ever get enough of that it's easy to come up with a new product that is exclusive and top notch.

Growing isn't an easy way to make a living. If you think so but haven't done it for a living you don't really know. I work my ass off most days and I run around e state hustling my seeds and buds but I do have it a little easier than most. Clubs want my shit.

My heart goes out to all the hard working farmers being screwed by crap pricing. I have told some outdoor growers to supplement with indoor organic grows but they don't like growing inside. I understand and I applaud all the hard work they do.

The nicest people I meet are pot growers...

6 months for 6 plants if they can prove intent to traffic..Mandatory minimums...Compliments of Harper..

Not worth the risk to someone just running a couple of lights...

Some are just running trees now though...1 plant a light....4 plants 2 lights...8week veg....buy a clone every month sorta thing...Yields are a bit lower tho this way.....

Only issue I have heard is there is a caveat about plants with >3lbs wet weight being considered differently...Have yet to look into this one.

What we need is a growers co-op.

price movement in local cannabis markets

price movement in local cannabis markets

I am not surprised at the recent fluctuations here in Los Angeles. I've seen it go from 5500 to 3200 in the years. More people than ever seem to have jumped into growing locally and under dispensary contact, so the (open) door to door vending might be slowly drowning. As a patient first, I demand my medication be free of adulterants, taste good and have desired effect. As an entraupaneurin a growing dei need any ventures I engage in to be financially stable (or hope for). I've been in the community in LA since 2003. I've grown my own medication since the start, as I am a serious diy'er. Learning to provide for myself taught me the skills I now user to help other patients access safe, clean, effective medicine. I've taught dispensary staff proper gardening techniques for their in house production spaces, and seen all angles of the many stores operating here. Price pressures hasn't made it through to the consumers. Dispensaries still charge full tilt for what they can pass of as top shelf. When I don't have my own supply (still happens rarely), I have to search for quality. I'm saddened every time I see the people and gardens being managed by dispensaries and the people they have hired for the job. Poorly designed spaces, bad energy and bad air flow. I'm amazed sometimes at it. The price pressures here I'm anticipating will break soon. Less stable weather patterns are messing with the North, border services arekeeping some of the illegally cultists or of the market (although I still am sure it makes up a good percentage of the "legal" market here in LA. We have a city vote which will hopefully lock some of our stores in place permanently, which could possibly bring cultivation sites opening for in house production (my company specializes in this). May 21 we will know that future of medical in LA.i am extremity hopeful.
The price issue is maddening, but I have stayed afloat by diversifying (inventing things for gardening, contacts to teach and design spaces for dispensaries) and by having the best quality I can possibly make. Aptus nutrients improved everything, but they are expensive.i also am liking heavy 16. Medicine done well with love and pride is the best market position any"cali" growers can Apr to insulate themselves.

I like this guys attitude. He's spot on. Real quality always sells.

blastfrompast said:

6 months for 6 plants if they can prove intent to traffic..Mandatory minimums...Compliments of Harper..

Not worth the risk to someone just running a couple of lights...

Some are just running trees now though...1 plant a light....4 plants 2 lights...8week veg....buy a clone every month sorta thing...Yields are a bit lower tho this way.....

Only issue I have heard is there is a caveat about plants with >3lbs wet weight being considered differently...Have yet to look into this one.

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The authorities consider 1 plant as equal = to 1 LB irregardless of life stage, that's why you might as well try and yield as much as possible.

RF