My 2nd outdoor grow is full of probs after flood

CannaRed · Jul 7, 2018

Been indoors perpetual for a little while but, this is only my second year outdoors.

Everything was doing great but we recently had a flood a some of the plants were completely under water for almost a day.

The day after the flood, 2 that had started to flower were covered in mud.

The tallest 2 were covered in bugs. Insects of every kind. I guess the bugs just grabbed on to whatever they could in floodwaters. I had caterpillars, ladybugs, daddy long-legs, beetles, ants, leaf hoppers, grass hoppers, etc. It was crazy.

Bugs are now gone, but there seems to be a pink powdery mildew on my Tiger Beat.

And all the plants now have yellow/ brown spots.

Tear everything down, and start over? It's late in the season so there won't be as much veg time.

I don't know.much of powdery mildew, especially pink.

DrDee · Jul 7, 2018

Hi Cannared,
Bummer about the flood. Been in several bad ones myself. Is the plant in the ground or in a pot? Since it isn't costing you any electricity...I say try to save it. Get some appropriate fungicide...or maybe some of the organic guys have a natural remedy.
Good luck,
JD

CannaRed · Jul 7, 2018

Only my high voltage from the seed kompany is in a 27ish gal pot. Rest are in the ground.

therevverend · Jul 7, 2018

Potassium Bicarbonate, company sells it calling it Green Cure, is an organic approved fungicide. You can even use it in flowering up to nearly harvest time. It's in quite a few food products among it's other uses.
Sorry you got hit by floods that's rough. It's part of being a farmer, you're at the whim of nature. Nothing you can do but go right back at it.
I'd go with what you've got now. Bugs come from the surrounding bush. Once it starts to dry up and die they'll migrate to your plants. You're actually lucky your disaster happened in Veg instead of 3 weeks into flowering.
No reason you can't recover from the bugs and mold, pull in a sweet harvest. Give them a big boost of nitrogen, along with P and a little K and micronutrients. They should snap right back and grow like crazy.
They should have 3-5 more weeks of Veg plenty of time to bush up. If you live in a long season full sun area you'll be fine.

CannaRed · Jul 9, 2018

therevverend said:
Potassium Bicarbonate, company sells it calling it Green Cure, is an organic approved fungicide. You can even use it in flowering up to nearly harvest time. It's in quite a few food products among it's other uses.
Sorry you got hit by floods that's rough. It's part of being a farmer, you're at the whim of nature. Nothing you can do but go right back at it.
I'd go with what you've got now. Bugs come from the surrounding bush. Once it starts to dry up and die they'll migrate to your plants. You're actually lucky your disaster happened in Veg instead of 3 weeks into flowering.
No reason you can't recover from the bugs and mold, pull in a sweet harvest. Give them a big boost of nitrogen, along with P and a little K and micronutrients. They should snap right back and grow like crazy.
They should have 3-5 more weeks of Veg plenty of time to bush up. If you live in a long season full sun area you'll be fine.

I'm going to try to order that, funds are a little low.
Have no idea if it will work but untill I can order a better product, I have been spraying different mixes of milk, kombucha, aloe, agsil 16, soap for PM and insects, and spraying FF Flower Kiss, FF Boomerang, and Photosynthesis Plus for nutrients.

Some people say that the microbiology in the photo+ will compete for space with the mildew spores. Figure either way it can't hurt.

What exactly are the spots from? I hear conflicting reports. Is it calcium deficiency? Is it caused by mildew problems

One buddy said that he only sees those spots when he has bud rot, that can't be visually detected externally. My plant is in veg, but I guess it can still be infected with the rot.

maimunji · Jul 9, 2018

Looks like leaf spot fungi lsf.

CannaRed · Jul 10, 2018

maimunji said:
Looks like leaf spot fungi lsf.

Thanks, gonna research that

maimunji · Jul 10, 2018

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=184996
Hope this help.
Good luck.
Check plant magic essence its fungi assassin. Will cure them after one spray.

xet · Jul 11, 2018

A few spots but plants look great. It's the outdoors. I would not worry any more.

maimunji · Jul 11, 2018

xet said:
A few spots but plants look great. It's the outdoors. I would not worry any more.

After 2 weeks plants will loose all leaves if lsf is issues.

CannaRed · Jul 12, 2018

maimunji said:
After 2 weeks plants will loose all leaves if lsf is issues.

Really? That's good to know. What would be the next cause if the leaves stay?
Thanks

xet · Jul 13, 2018

CannaRed said:
Really? That's good to know. What would be the next cause if the leaves stay?
Thanks

I do not believe you have any worries.

Look at Pipeline's finished plant.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=8328988&postcount=40

CannaRed · Jul 27, 2018

Now what? What is this?

DrDee · Jul 27, 2018

Sheesh...is it just on one leaf? Some kind of egg sac. I'd pull it and destroy it.
JD

AgentPothead · Jul 27, 2018

Are those eggs or actual bugs? If you shake the plant does stuff fly away or fall off or does it stay on the leaf?

CannaRed · Jul 27, 2018

DrDee said:
Sheesh...is it just on one leaf? Some kind of egg sac. I'd pull it and destroy it.
JD

I'm going back this evening to see if there is any more. I only saw it on one leaf, but it was getting dark and couldn't really see.

They egg sacks are hard. Tried to crush them by putting leaf on hard surface and rubbing my lighter across but it just tore leaf.

CannaRed · Jul 27, 2018

AgentPothead said:
Are those eggs or actual bugs? If you shake the plant does stuff fly away or fall off or does it stay on the leaf?

They are eggs. They remind me of little pieces of quartz sand that are super glued to the back side of the leaf.

CannaRed · Jul 27, 2018

Gonna spray essential oils (Maggie's rtu), azamax, and few drops of Dr. Bronners soap.

Any objections? I'm all ears.

AgentPothead · Jul 27, 2018

CannaRed said:
They are eggs. They remind me of little pieces of quartz sand that are super glued to the back side of the leaf.

Your best bet will be to get in touch with your local extension office and see if you can provide them with a photograph or even a sample of the eggs. They should know what it is. The problem arises if it's a pest that only/mostly occurs on marijuana and you are in a non legal area. Either that or hope somebody on here is an entomologist or has seen those specific eggs before. :biggrin:

CannaRed · Jul 27, 2018

AgentPothead said:
Your best bet will be to get in touch with your local extension office and see if you can provide them with a photograph or even a sample of the eggs. They should know what it is. The problem arises if it's a pest that only/mostly occurs on marijuana and you are in a non legal area. Either that or hope somebody on here is an entomologist or has seen those specific eggs before.

Va baby! I will definitely NOT be sending any samples. :biggrin:

Where are all my entomologists at? :1help:

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