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Old 08-14-2017, 08:42 PM #21
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Old 08-14-2017, 08:49 PM #22
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As you can see, they are really short. I kept them for too long in the 5l pots.

The LST is not perfect by any means, but at least is better than last year. I think the best LST'ed plant is QM3.

I think the green is too dark, so maybe a little bit too much N? I've been watering with only water the last 2 waterings. They are also having some heat troubles.

I hope they will do good during the flowering stage.

And here a little comparison of the leafs: OE, QM#2 and QM#3.
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:06 PM #23
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Hi vcasqui,

Thanks for your updates, i see that the QMs had a bit of nutrient deficiencies in her first stage of life, but now all the new growth in your plants look perfectly healthy, i think you found the right feeding for them.

I would recommend you to adjust the thermal amplitude, so your plants don't have such lower temps at night: they would grow faster.
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Old 08-17-2017, 12:26 PM #24
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Hey dubi, thanks a lot. Your post came in a perfect time actually, as I'm struggling with the feeding of the plants.

I was thinking a little and, in the end, I identified the burned leafs as P/K defficiency, or PH fluctuations. But I was a little afraid because I was not sure about the N, but you saying that they had defficiencies is a big help.

I will also try to find a better place for them to sleep. In the last nights I kept them inside a room, and they sure seem to be happier in the morning. The taller branches have also got a little bit bigger.

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Old 08-21-2017, 01:16 AM #28
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Not perfect, but not tooooo bad.

You can see the deficiencies clearly in the pics. The older leafs are pretty damaged, and the plants dropped more leafs than I woud like. I would say that they have a "pretty high" food deficiency, but at least the new growth don't look so bad. Also, probably, some PH fluctuations and a fuckton of excessive heat.

The good news: the taller branches of QM#2 and QM#3 increased it's high by ~10-13cm (now they are around 35-37cm tall) in the last 7 days. The smaller branches not quite that, but they also became taller. Overall size of the OE have also incremented.

I have to say, though, that I observed a bigger internodal distance in the top quarter of the QM#2.

You may also remember that I have 2 more plants: QM#4 in a 7l pot and an ACE MIX in a 3l pot. I'm not showing pics of those because I'm ashamed of their conditions. Maintaining root-bounded plants in such small pots is a nightmare for me. Days like today, where the temps reached 43+ºC, the plants went from recently watered to "almost dead" in just 16 hours. Even the bigger pots were almost dry, and I did water them this morning... The 44Km/h dry winds didn't help too much either.

That's all for now. I'm making mistakes and probably my conclusions are wrong, but the practise makes the master they say.

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Hi, good luck with your work.

I dont do this but may be a little coverage over the soil can help you with the deshidratation of the plants. I know its difficult because 2 day are with hot sun and then 2 weeks with rains, and so much water with soil coverage in the plants probably damage them.
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