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Old 05-27-2018, 01:41 AM #91
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More of the Sexbud based stuff looks like it's going to flower. If I was trying to get an autoflower on purpose, the complaint would still be "this is too small". So it doesn't seem to work out very well in this kind of mix.


Both Himalayan and Nemesis appear to throw a good amount of viable offspring.


Even if the Sexbud falls apart, there could be twelve or sixteen females in the rest, so I think going for the Bhutanese would be the best, and the others will just have to wait on the backburner.
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Here's what happens.


You sit on a "special" seed for a while until the right opportunity. You get the pack and it's exciting because there are extra, which seems unusual for a three pack of feminized. Yay! Then, due to the nature of the packaging and the fact that you can't see tiny little details, you have sliced open the inner lining and they all rolled out.


I *think* I recovered them mostly, however, there is at least one extra that came out of a bag of the frizzy little hydro stuff we smoke. So I have planted...more than three Bhutanese, but with one or more random visitors. All I can do is keep combing the area for any more loose seeds, and hope the visitor is dead or at least distinguishable.


Hope there's only one random. Functioning flashlights are not allowed around here, and it will be tough to find any more seeds if they haven't jumped out yet. That was fairly ham fisted of me to spill them, but what's done is done.


I was encouraged to keep the Sexbud on a "why not" basis. Prospecting these Bhutanese to perhaps be that reason. Meanwhile, it's supposed to start raining after midnight and just keep going. That's exactly the thing which gets dangerous for the younger seedlings.
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Old 05-31-2018, 11:32 PM #93
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Looks like perhaps dropping a couple more Himalayas out of the run; they are being outgrown by the younger stuff. It should be showing some kind of "hybrid vigor". None of them have the "whorled" shape of their mom, they're kind of plain.


Krystalica is maybe a bit sensitive about starting, but at this young point in veg it is already impressive. Bold and distinct. Quite vigorous. Memorable and award winning. I could recommend this to anyone who likes "stuff that grows".


Fortunately, I believe at least some of the Bhutanese is going to come up, and I'm pretty sure it's really them. I probably never will get anything 100% like the Thai was, but you don't stop trying.
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Old 06-05-2018, 08:25 PM #94
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I got five from the Bhutanese-bag seed shuffle, and, I can't tell any difference in the sprouts. I suppose it will take a while to have any kind of guess. The seeds rolled into a right mess; I think I got all the real ones.


I'll have to plead ignorance about any difference between auto-flower and pre-flower. I found a couple Sexbuds start flowering as tiny little toothpick plants, and more at about a foot tall, and really these are all the least impressive of any plants, and all I can say is if you were to mix it on purpose, it would probably go best with C99 or something very close to itself.


Now it comes to the Nemesis. I'm guessing these are "pre-flowers", as, the plants have at least reached a reasonable size and age to be thought of as mature. So far, all I'm finding is female pistils. As far as I know, there is no "auto-flowering" even in the background of China Yunnan from OE, so I have more reason to suspect that they will veg out more in a couple weeks. At the very least, these will be much different than the "column" it was last year.



This makes my first time attempting a whole season outdoors, so in all my experience, whenever I found pistils, I tossed the plant indoors to flower. If I had indoor stuff now, I would be much happier to apply it to the Nemesis rather than the Sexbud. Instead, we just have to watch its behavior.
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Old 06-09-2018, 05:48 PM #95
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I did wind up culling one Nemesis that wasn't keeping up. So three of those are reasonably medium-sized plants, probably about the size of what we flowered last year. It's changed to mostly narrow leaves and looks about like Orient Express; not sure if Nemesis alone should really do that; maybe it's from the mix.


I found the swankiest thing which is to water with a sprinkler. Sounds trivial, but it's quite exciting compared to most of what goes on around here.


Zero losses to the Thai so far. This one seemed to do pretty well in the sun from a small size. Don't know if it's any good, but so far, best survival rate on starts I have seen.
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:02 AM #96
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After being asked to keep the Sexbud, I think it has that Gary Coleman disease where age is accelerated. It's not pre-flowering, because it didn't go back to veg...it's not "really" flowering because it just made a few hairy wisps scarcely appropriate to call it "bud"...and now it looks like it's running up on the end of its life cycle. The parent was great, but these mixed kids are just not right.


So far, the Mandala stuff looks slated for outdoor growth. All of it has the long node spacing that you probably wouldn't want indoors. They would probably be majestic if allowed to run free, but, in a stealth garden, they're getting topped and bent, and, even so, they still might be getting big. I did fry a couple Bhutanese. I try to be careful with the hardening off and overwatering, but, the reality of the situation is that sometimes I get pulled away and things happen. Even if there's only a few, they're femmed, so shouldn't be any losses with males. I need there to be some males in the other stuff so I can get more room, but all the pre-flowers I've found are female. I think that would be the right term to apply to Nemesis since it looks like it kept going.


The Himalayan mix doesn't suck, but it's not impressive either. Seems kind of average and indistinct. It hasn't gotten close to the Nemesis, and the Mandala stuff is starting to surpass it. No reason to scrap it, they can go slow as long as it's not stupidly slow.
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Old 06-28-2018, 02:21 AM #97
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No real news and no additional casualties.


I am finding that Nemesis looks a whole lot like Orient Express, not sure if that's due to mixing it, but nothing much broad-leafed left to it.


Unlike their mom, a fair few of the Himalayan seem to have reverted to what's taken to be an undesirable jungli aspect of North Indian weed, which is a lolipop plant. I tried bending them for a while, and two or three set branches, but at least half of them are probably going to look like mops.
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Old 07-13-2018, 03:27 AM #98
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The Thai and Mandala stuff are no joke.


There won't be any "top it once". These all blew by the older plants and I have to start topping them a second time.


I have achieved what people call a "dense canopy" and there is no more room for LST. And because it is dense, I clumsily broke a main branch from a Krystalica and then overwatered it. It can probably make a comeback, but isn't very pretty right now.


I can't find wide leaves anywhere. The Himalayans, now resembling the seven dwarves, are probably closer to "medium" than the other stuff, which ranges from narrow to very narrow.


So I don't really know if these newer plants could be made bushier by bending, because there was only room to do it to Krystalica very briefly. Thai and Bhutanese are definitely both skyrockets. Really seems to have outdoor growing at heart. If I could do it openly, I would love to try all three of those full season unlimited. Instead we're going to pot up and hope there are some males to toss.


I can't remember when flowering starts, but there's nothing left you'd call a bad plant and say why bother.
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Old 07-21-2018, 02:19 AM #99
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It looks like we hit two or three weeks of "not really flowering" but at least showing sex. Probably none of this stuff has the tendency of a Kiss Dragon to churn out massive clusters on day two.


So while it's good to find female appearances...considering only three of about sixteen plants are feminized...I'm slightly aghast at finding a singular male. You'd expect there to easily be five or six, which I was planning on, to cull for space. Probably should give it a couple days to be sure, but the removal of one won't accomplish much. They are vaccum packed and can't really get individual attention that way. So, erm, a few more males please? A normal ratio would be fine.
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Old 07-28-2018, 01:40 AM #100
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It was more than that. Managed to hack out 3/26 males...didn't gain any room.


And, it's going to outgrow the partition. Going to have to shore it up with some kind of material. It will probably be between something ugly that lasts forever, and something ugly. A few of them are about as tall as me. One of the Bhutanese I either didn't top or didn't hit it right...looks like a single stalk, and it is shorter than the ones that got cut. Plants are weird.


Nothing is really bursting with pistils yet, but if they produce colas, they will definitely be taller than me. Not the Nemesis. It got a good bit of bending and squashing so, kind of shrubby. Even with phased planting, the tropical stuff still gets unreasonably lengthy. So we'll mask that with, erm...something inconspicuous.
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