Originally Posted by Jmo420
I do top my plants throughout thier veg cycle but have never had a prob before with those methods. I usualy top here and yhere and stop a day or two before switch. Start of week 3 I trim up/lollipop my plants and that's when the weird hermie shit is really noticeable. The same methods that were successful were just copied and set up in a different spot. The diff in light intensity is possible but plants never really show signs of stress. I forgot to mention when I move under gavitas I only turn on 6 for the first couple days on 500. Then plug in the last 3, wait a few days then bring up intensity 50 watts every day or 100 every other day. This time vegged the entire time at 500 until I flipped then slowly turned up to 1000. Last night during steaking up I found 2 spots. I did at one point think the t5s might be it. But I use 4 sun blaze 400w t5s to veg under which is def not a 1k gavita but in terms of watts per sq ft it's not that far apart (gavitas turned down) unless thats really not how it works..? My water was coming out around 66-68 sometimes lower so I thought of possible rhizome shock but no chance when water was heated. I have a blue rhino whole house filter just for my flower room so I don't think it's from something in the water. I've also found posts about the dudding but people have claimed to send in duds to have tested and its come back.negative. Also nobody has mentioned hermie or hormonal breakdown that Ive experienced. Or they just dont want to say since it makes herb close to wrothless in this market...If you look up dudding cannabis you can probably find a distinct 0pic of it faster than i can upload obe lol
Was the bolded section standard practice before as well? This is a big red flag to me. If you aren't turning on some lights on, then the plants under them aren't getting enough light....do you recall at all if the problem plants were under the lights that do not come on for the most part?
I really wish I could send you my par meter. I don't think it is light intensity doing this. It may be a lack.
This meter has been a huge help for me setting up rooms. What I thought was causing me problems under gavitas before seems to have just been lack of light coupled with heat.
Those meters are incredibly accurate and so fuckin easy to use I really recommend them to any serious grower.
Your water being as cold as it is I would be sure anyways to heat it up or let it hit room temperature. This is more of paranoia on my part. I know that low will screw clones so I would assume whole plants as well has some effect, but I also do not think this is the culprit.
I am highly intrigued to say the least and hope we can figure this out.
I think you may be being too cautious with your light intensity. I have seedlings under full spectrum cobs right now at 800 par and they are doing great. They were test bunnies...I also had no problems ever starting seedlings under 1k watt hps about 3 1/2 feet above sometimes 4 and lowering them when first set appeared or if I thought the stems were too lanky. I never got par readings on those though.