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Old 03-20-2009, 01:56 PM #41
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Nice one Equilibrium, I have never seen that happen before. Looks like the main stem failed to develop properly for some reason so the plant behaved as if it were topped. Could be genetic or chemically induced. Interesting. The plant looks really good and healthy, if you want to you could fill the pot up with more soil, to the point where stem is divided. Then you will get adventitious roots growing on the part of the stem that is now exposed.

Yeah, that insane main cola was about 70cm / 28 inches in length and very thick. It's a 17+ weeker Nevilles Haze pheno of Mr. Nice Super Silver Haze, strongest plant I have ever seen (and smoked). I grew the same plant for a whole year over three grows. During the first two grows I kept it in check but this is a picture from the last one where I decided to let it go feral. You might not be able to tell from the picture but that plant was actually much taller than me when the main cola was upright so it's fair to say that the harvest was quite abundant. A real monster

It had very sticky buds that smelled like bitter pine with a skunky undertone of ripe citrus fruit. Loved that plant.


This is what she looked like when I kept her in check, still a very difficult plant to train.




If anyone is interested, here is a links to the thread on that grow posted over at mr.nice.nl
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Old 03-20-2009, 02:24 PM #42
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Hey Equilibrium , I had exactly the same with Big Bang from GH.
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Old 03-20-2009, 03:33 PM #43
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I have same thing with Arjan and Super Silver fro GH .... What gives man? both hitting week sixteen with no end in sight
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Old 03-20-2009, 08:21 PM #44
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It's the Haze man.

These phenos that are leaning heavily towards the Haze and resemble equatorial sativas can probably flower forever as they are used to growing under constant 12/12 light. I got the best result from a 11/13 flowering schedule. It would be interesting to know exactly how long a plant like this could flower for when grown in a controlled environment and fed regularly. I bet that you could get a perpetual harvest from the plant for a long time by removing the buds that are ready and allowing her to happily flower on.

People have reported several different phenos of the SSH from Shantibaba, ranging from Skunk/Hazes to NL/Hazes, all of which were ready within 12 weeks or so. I was hoping for the mostly Haze pheno and was lucky enough to get it. It was no easy task to keep the internodes tight and getting tight buds but I succeeded quite well in the end by topping and training the plant for several months before flowering and by keeping the light as close as possible to the buds. That one plant yielded more than all of my other plants put together. I had a few coughs and an Ice plant running at the same time during the first run.

The SSH just kept on flowering forever. By the time the oldest buds were ripe, there were already new flowers forming in other locations and growing out of the older buds as well. The nugs were drenched in THC. I suspect that once the trichome fills up with oil it starts pouring out on top and into the buds because I really did not touch the buds a lot during flowering. They felt oily to the touch and were sticky as hell.

I let her flower for 17+ weeks and then my patience ran out. During that last grow I just let it go crazy as I wanted to see how much weight it could pack on and I could not the there to train it. Imagine my surprise when I came back home and saw that the plant had grown a bud three times the size of my own head

I still have 5 seeds left in the pack but I think I will wait a long time before growing that plant again. Got a lot of strain waiting in the fridge and some own hybrids as well. I've got Jock Horrors in flowering right now and Jack Herer waiting in the fridge. Once I have grown all of these out, I will know the NL/Skunk/Haze hybrids compare to each other. I bet that they are all different but equally interesting plants.
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Old 03-20-2009, 09:41 PM #45
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piosh, I came up with another solution for your problem while I was dealing with my own S.A.G.E plant that is ridiculously stretchy compared to the others. Just like moses224 originally suggested, bend the tallest branches vertically without creating an angle that is too extreme and tie them down to a nearby branch that is shorter.

The top shoots on the longer branches will make a turn and head for the light but since you will tie the branch vertically, each shoot on the branch will also start growing taller. It's bascially early flowering LST. No parts removed and no need for a scrog net. Mine is much lower down so I could not make use of it and came up with this idea instead. This way you don't have to worry about headroom and the plants will most likely also grow an even canopy with more shoots than before. Since it's still early in flowering theese shoots will also pack on weight later on and you'll end up with a greater harvest as well.

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Old 03-20-2009, 09:48 PM #46
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nice work! lots of info
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very nice....
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I topped 2 of my plants who where stretching more than the others. Thanks again for the thread Kodiak. :smile:

I didn't try to FIM, as the picture is not that clear for me. Maybe a photo would help.
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Old 03-21-2009, 07:03 PM #49
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You can keep topping them several times over if you like, Equilibrium. They will grow bushier each time, try tying down some branches and you will see how LST works.

I have no picture of FIM topping but perhaps someone else could post a good pic here if they have one. It's not that complicated, just cut the top shoot so that you leave a bit of the leaf tissue left on the plant.

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Old 03-22-2009, 06:12 AM #50
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wow very detailed! thanks for putting this together
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