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Hempy Grow Log -- Flower 1200W Veg 400W clones+moms 220W --

Bonavendura

Member
Hello Hempiers of icmag ,

Everything is running smooth in my rooms and Hempy's is
realy easy if you understand that you must be chilled and stop
mesuring everything and trying to get control of everything.
I was feeding 1,5 EC & 5,5 ph and the solution drifts to 1,1 EC and 6,2 ph
wich is very cool.

Today after my watering i measure (i am not chilled yet , but i will)
2,0 EC & 5,7 ph and i will drain some water from the res tommorow
for double crossing , if this was the case i will give a R/O flush before
the next watering .

i found some 11 blades fanleafs in my grow and this makes me happy
for somereason.The fuc_ _d up plants (the ones that take 4 days 24/0)
while 1 week in flowering start to form buds and the other plants
look maybe 1 week behind them .

The army of clones continues with light casualties for the moment
with a light misting inside the cups every 3 days.

Enough talking some picture updates and waiting for some real buds to form.

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Bonavendura

Member
Hello Hempiers of icmag ,

Well making a log for Hempy grows is only for showing off .
Nothing really that others can learn from you , everything
running smooth if you follow the simple instructions of Hempy's.
Nothing to realy share exept pictures not even one problem that's
why this log maybe is not taking often comments and for sure
that's why is not getting often updates.
I can admit that growing in Hempy's it can be ...... boring if you
compare it to Rdwc.
no problems , no worries , give a watering twice a week and forget.

Everything is running good inside the flowering room the only
thing that i regret is not throwing this Scrog net over the plants.
I have a jungle there with budsites fighting for some light.
I defoliate over 200 fan leafs @ the three last waterings but
it is not enough for this Jungle.In some of the next sessions i will
trim once more the lower-weak branches and let them go.

My army of clones counts over 15 losses and i not saticfied either
with the suchess rate either with the rooting time , i will find
yhe solution soon.

I have some pictures for you from the flowering room where some sticky
budsites starting to form , i add one more
400W HPS (the one from the Veg room) without a cooltube and helped a lot
with the humidity in there.So totaly it is 1600 Watts in there
600+600 in cooltubes and 400 with a chep reflector.

Final conclusion Hempy's is SUPER EASY and problems free .

Pics

My army of clones with severe losses.They root in those perlite
mini hempy's but they take over 3 weeks and you must have good clones to
survive , my clones was shity weak ones.

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Welcome to jungle

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And some baby budsites

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@cameron666
The army of clones is made with weak clones
the army suffers severe losses but they will survive
enough i really need only 18 from the 72.



@ choch
Thanks buddy i wass waiting for this momment too ,
some weeks more to go.
 

Bonavendura

Member
Hello Hempiers of icmag ,
Thanks everyone for the positive vibes .


Once more i am here to share with you some pics ,
and as you can imagine nothing special going on
in this flowering room.

The strech is over and now the plants give their
energy in budsites formation , i am waiting for
the fattening stage ...

Today i give them just ph'ed water cause yesterday
i tilt some buckets to take some runoff and i measure
EC 2,1 and ph 5,4 (i am watering EC 1,4-1,5 ph 5,5-5,6)

Unfortunatly my army of seedlings continue to count losses.
i have maybe 25-30 rooted 20 dead and 20 that they must
decide to die or root.

I must admit that cause i only really need 18 of them i did not
take care of them , i even dont remember when i was watering and why.
Anyway my cloning technique in mini hempy's need improvment
and i will be on top of it soon.

Tommorow i will make some transpants in 3 gallon containers
for 7 to 10 strong rooted clones and soon they will follow some
more.

@ hazydreams Thank's for your kind words and positive vibes
indeed Hempy's look promising



Some pictures from Hempy's now .

this clones hate me , i am sure , they are 4 WEEKS OLD !!!!

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Misc photos flowering room

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hazydreams

Active member
way to go bona.

Your plants look so healthy its amazing. i keep watching these hempy threads looking for a catch..... im still trying to find one. it cant really be that easy.... is it?
 

Bonavendura

Member
hazydreams i just now checking you scrog and defol techiques i am
scared when i am thinking that i must do all this work for this
jungle but i must do it in the next run.

And yes hempy's is amazingly easy , take as a note that i am coming
from RDWC.Real working time for everything is 4 hours in a week , period.
Mix 40-60 liters nuts , give a watering , done .
i am waiting for the catch too i would like to see how they will
perform in the scale after drying.

Next round i would like to make a side by side Hempy vs bubbler
 

hazydreams

Active member
its funny to hear you say what I'm doing is a technique. lol. honest to go tho those pictures were taken about 2 mintues apart. it takes no time to take off the big fan leaves. My intent is to not "defol" the plant. What i attempt is to open up the canopy for the bottom spars while removing as few fan leaves as possible. if its shading a bottom site it gets trimmed. that almost makes my canopy even, its still a work in progress, to watch a true scrog master check out verdantgreen.

I wish you well with the hempy's and i would love to see a side by side versus a bubble. as it stands right now i invest just about as much time (4 hours a week) with my cab...... and you have about 10 fold the plants. lol.
 

Bonavendura

Member
@ dubwise

Thanks for the good vibes !

@ HighDesertJoe

Thanks , keep looking i will post until dry weight



Hello Hempiers of icmag ,

Sorry for this late update but work keep me away
from my darkroom for some weeks.

Since my last update budsites start to getting bigger
and some more clones die.I can tell you from now that
Hempy buckets is not as productive as DWC or Rdwc is.
Of course i will wait for the final dry weight but it is
obvious in this stage of develompent , budsites development
it is closer to soil rather than hydro runs ... maybe i am making
something wrong this is my first Hempy session.


I have some CalMag and,or Potassium defiancy in Late stage
for 2 or 3 Heavy feeders AK47 plants , unfortunatly it is not possible to
help them remotly and my partner could not help me to help him.


As my first reaction to the heavy def that you will see below
i mix the nutes with GMB at 123 ratio cause the Green bottle is rich
in Potassium and i am searching for some CalMAg or epsom Salts
to help further more .


In the following days i will transplant 18 from the rooted clones
and i will keep 2 or 3 mothers.The rooted clones is almost 40
and we start with 72 weak clones in mini hempy's with little if any
attention to them.

some pic now and soon i will be back with a new batch of young plants
in Hempy's




The next session 30 days before 12/12

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Late stage def Potassium , Manganese or both

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Flowering room

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brettweir

Member
CalMag will definitely help with that deficiency. My first hempy grow had some serious deficiencies similar to yours. On my second run, I used CalMag all the way through flowering and I didn't see any issues that time around.

Sorry if it's already been stated, but what is your perlite/vermiculite ratio in those cloning cups? They look like almost pure perlite, which I think might be causing your clones to die off so quickly. It's possible that the roots just aren't getting enough moisture, which can be fixed by adding more vermiculite to your mix. Are you feeding the clones anything?

Good job on the flowering plants though. They're looking good!
 

Bonavendura

Member
Thanks for steping in brettweir ,

It is true that my cloning cups is pure perlite , next round i will try
3-1 perlite-vermiculite but i don't know if they die from lack of moisture ,
some of the cups was too moist even one week after puring some water on them.
The truth is that not only i do not feeding them anything but i cannot even answer to you how often i give them a watering , maybe they survive over a week
without watering .I am not so much dispapointed from the low sucess rate of hempy cups cloning but from the slow rooting .... for sure over 3 weeks and maybe over 4 weeks in some cases ? which is your opinion on this ?


As for the cal-mag i believe that it is depend primarly on the strain-pheno combo cause most of my 25 plants looks happy with just Lucas formula @ 1,3-1,5 EC.Do you find this heavy def more on the Cal mag side cause it looks like
Potassium def too ?
 

brettweir

Member
Any idea what the temps are in the veg area? Better yet if you can get the temp of the root zone. My current grow is very slow in veg because it's been very cold lately and the plants are in the basement where they get little heat.

I'm almost certain that your cloning issue is due to the fact that it's pure perlite. While the cups might feel heavy with moisture, WHERE the moisture is spread is what's important. By using pure perlite, every time you water, it likely goes right to the bottom of the cup instead of being spread around (this is where vermiculite comes in.) Try a 50/50 mix for your clones and see how it goes. I'm almost certain that the roots aren't coming out because there simply isn't enough moisture where it needs it the most.

Do you use a rooting gel with the clones? If not, try rooting gel in a 50/50 perl/verm mix and put a plastic bag over the cup to lock moisture in. Even better if you can get a small heating pad under those cloning cups, too.
 

Bonavendura

Member
@brettweir

Veg area is around 24-25 Celsius while the bottom of the cups did not take
any special treatment.
Now that you mention about it i realize that you are right , inside the hempy
party cup the res stays flooded for many days while the top is going dry.
Next cloning session is in 30 days and i will try 50/50 mix as you say , i use
cloning gel and i have a DIY dome for the first days ,

Thanks for helping around
 

Bonavendura

Member
Hello hempiers of icmag ,

I am back with updates and a few pics.

First of all the new session is prepared in the veg room.
8 plants veging right now under 400 Watt MH 7 plants
for Flowering under 400 Watt Hps and one for mother plant.

In the veg room too you can see in the pics bellow everything
that survive from the 72 weak clones 18 of this clones is going
for veg under 400 Watt Mh this week and 2 or 3 more for mother plants ,
the rest is going to some friends.
As you can read in the previous post i mess it up with those
clones and the next time i will try 50-50 perlite/vermiculite mix.

In the flowering room the 7 Skunk plants under the 400HPS is going
to be harvested this week and 2 or 3 weeks everything else will
follow.

As the end of my first Hempy attempt coming closer i can admit that
Hempy's is easy and trouble free .
They must feeded with low EC (0,8-1,0) values as highonmt recomends me in the

first page of this thread cause over time they EC values inside the res in

climbing as for the ph of the solution i haven't any conclusions yet.
I Think that If you feed with high ec values like 1,5-1,8 inside the res the

solution is going to be 2,0+ and the ph values is going to be lower from what

you feed , if you feed light at0.8-1,0 the ph inside the res maybe is going to

be stable or rise a bit , but i am not sure about all this stuff.
I can also state with confidence that Hempy's cannot compete DWC or RDWC in
weight production cause the budsites that i see now is way smaller from
the ones that i am used to see in my RDWC sessions but they are for sure more
productive than soil and way easier from soil and everything else.
Some pics for you


Bud closeup

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Some pics if the 7 plants that is going to be harvested this week

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Flowering room

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Veg room and the 33 surviving clones from 72 that they start.
just put them in there and forget them i was feeding once a week maybe
next time i will raise my rooted/dead ratio.

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c u all guys .
 

dansbuds

Retired from the workforce Bullshit
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Bona ... i too was having problems cloning ... tried everything i could think of . eventually tried the walmart cloner with fine grade vermiculite & now i get 95% sucsess . it too is set & forget which i really like . i let them go 2 weeks & almost always have roots coming out the holes in the bottom of the tubes . they are perfect for hempys cuz its a 3" long plug about the size of your index finger ... i just fill my cups with the wet hempys mix stick my finger down the middle of the cup , drop the rooted plug in , pat the mix down & they're done . just a little water each day for a week & you can tell when the roots hit the rez ...cuz they just take off with new growth .

heres the link to the cloner .... its a long read but woth it ....https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=42847
i have clones in now ... when they're ready i'll get pics & show ya what i mean about the rooted plugs .... its the only thing i use now .
 

Bonavendura

Member
@ dansbuds

Thanks i need every help with cloning in perlite/vermiculite.

Hello Hempiers of icmag ,


Today not even 4 months after my first post with my on paper plans
for the grow room i have some harvest pics for you.I will do not
have a lot of comments not until they dry up ;)
Straight ahead to pics

oh !!! here you can see the next generation the white buckets moved
for veg area to flowering just yesterday...the colored ones will follow soon.


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Here is the root ball of the thin and tall buckets i am satisfied with what i see

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Another pic of the rootball , you can see that i hold this think in the air

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The rootball after i remove the perlite/vermiculite mix

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And finaly some pics from the drying buds ...... i will be back with
dry weights in about 10-15 days , you can make your estimations of dry weight ..

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c u soon
 

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