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It was the Unknown Comic

It was the Unknown Comic

He would run out being real silly and he never really did much but he made me laugh my stoned ass off.

I hope you girls settle this kitty scratch soon so we can get some real catscratching going.... BOG

hhmmm...catscratch...guess you never read these posts bog....

you think its some sorta pissing contest....

it aint...

yer comment about this beeing about me wanting to be a mod....you obviously dont know me...i have turned down anything of that sort in the past....aint my thing

i thought this site was about making a difference....legalizing this shit....helping out the guys who are growwing this shit where it is illegal...which basically is the entire world

but i see by the mods posts thus far this is about "getting the popcorn"...watching the "catscratch"

this site is a fucking joke....nothing changed....all the shit you guys say you dislike about OG is still here....


you guys care more about rubbing shoulders/ass kissing/selling yer seeds/selling yer products to members .....this site is completely a joke...

maybe what a few of you need is to spend a bit of time where some of these folks are headed to...

sit yer asses down in a small little room...say 8' by 8'....concrete floor...concrete walls....one door in...with a little 10 inch window.....got a light in there..but you cant control when it is on or off.....got a bed...right beside yer fucking toilet.

maybe after that you wont think this shit is fun....maybe when you face yer family after you get out you wont think this is some sorta game....or some sorta way to make money off folks...

one day selling seeds/equipment to folks will be like any other busieness....buyer beware...til then you guys should have some sorta respect for your members

peace

krusty

Right on Krusty!

If a picture is worth a 1000 words, the pics you posted above are worth over 300,000.

I believe you when you say you have grown even bigger then those shown in that third pic, and I believe you when you say your record is 3.5 pounds per 1000 watts.

Thanks for showing us some sweet pics bro!

Well So Quick, there IS always more than one way to skin a cat, but since this Krusty cat has definitely found a way that works for sure, it probably will make sense to implement some of Krusty's ideas.

Still, Krusty, please go easy on our good buddy SQ, he may not be reaching your personal best yet, but he has been producing better results than most, and he has the potential to go all the way.

Peace

krusty said:

maybe what a few of you need is to spend a bit of time where some of these folks are headed to...

sit yer asses down in a small little room...say 8' by 8'....concrete floor...concrete walls....one door in...with a little 10 inch window.....got a light in there..but you cant control when it is on or off.....got a bed...right beside yer fucking toilet.

maybe after that you wont think this shit is fun....maybe when you face yer family after you get out you wont think this is some sorta game....or some sorta way to make money off folks...

one day selling seeds/equipment to folks will be like any other busieness....buyer beware...til then you guys should have some sorta respect for your members

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Krusty - I cannot agree with you more!! This is a constant discussion between my parnters and I about how the 'industry' as a whole is BULLSHIT - how "Hightimes" and "Cannabis Culture" are BULLSHIT - how OG and CW and the hype on these boards are BULLSHIT. . . .in fact - that is part of the reason why it took me so long to convert to the KBS was convincing him that it is more than just "internet hype" - I still dont think he fully believes in it - but we are giving it a go!

I think about Jail almost DAILY! Maybe it is because I am in LA were the penalties are harsher than CANADA, or what I dont know - I guess I could have picked worse places to grow too.

Fucken Jail SUCKS - and I have hardly done more then spend a few weekends in County Jail for bullshit charges.

This aint no game folks - this is for real.

Let me say it again - Fucken Jail SUCKS!

Step up to the plate or get the fuck out.

All you growers who are whining because you cannot figure out things on your own (( mostly because you dont do the reading and research someone like me does )) and then bitching here in the forums - especially to Krusty - especially about things I KNOW he has already covered - you make me sick.

Course it is not going to be easy - of course you are going to run into problems with your A/C not working like it should - of couse you are going to have shit . . .I cant even remember all the bullshit little problems I have heard people complaining about when setting up their grow - GET OVER IT, figure it out - move on - or go and get a day job.

As far as the mods go Krusty -- and the sponsers and such -- I am actually thankful for them for having set up sites like this and OG/CW. They sure as hell didnt do it for me - they sure as hell didnt do it for you - the did it for themself -- which is why everyone really does everything right - to please THEMSELVES!
Scum Sucking Mods/Sponsers or not -- fuck it - I just ignore the advertisements, hype, banners, bullshit - and figure it will give the newbies something to get caught up in rather than fucking wit us. So the bottom line for me is - that I am thankful that these sites are here to bring growers together and the only way they could survive/operate outside of being sponsered by mods/breeders would be private donations which I just dont think would happen.

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~ SomeoneYouKnow ~

Aww man, remember our dogs..

Aww man, remember our dogs..

I'm sorry Krusty I was just trying to make peace not trouble. BOG

I didn't really think you wanted to be the mod...I thought ya would take the joke ok...

I also didn't mean anyone lied either. I was joking man...

krusty said:

. . . in a small little room...say 8' by 8'....concrete floor...concrete walls....one door in...with a little 10 inch window.....

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Hmmm - was just thinking about this one. . . . and I think that that might actually make a pretty good grow room.

Hmmm - maybe four tiny plants - it should stay cool with all the concrete - only one door and window to seal up - there is probiably a room next door for my rez - wonder what kind of incomming power lines they have.

Hmmmm - Just a thought.

Hehehehe

~ SYK ~

hmm

hmm

Well, I don't know if this site is big enough for the two of you (SQ and K)! I'm just interested in seeing some real pros exchanging tips and experiences. I'm not interested in any online bragging bullshit of course; I find that seems to come with these communities though - but in the end, we gotta realize how much we're gaining from coming together to share experience, knowledge, genetix.

Thanks Krusty for your hard-ass suggestions! You're invaluable to the growing community!

SQ, good to see you branching out from OG! With exposure to criticism from K, it'll be quite a learning experience for all of us.

And thank you both for putting yourselves out there to help educate all the growers out there!!!!!

Peace out and stay safe,
chef

Time for the ol Quick dude to take a step back!! I see this is startin to get a lil emotional...you know krusty...I respect you to the all time fullest after this lil bit of dancin we did!! I see your angle my friend...but you have to understand mines...you would have to really read one of my threads fully out to know my direction and purpose...I'm here just as your are...might not be the way you'de like me to be, but I speak out of experience and if I find somethin that I feel will help and inspire a grower...well dammit, I'm gonna speak on it!!! If and when you get a chance to go over my coli thread, you'll see that I included everything...from emotional issues and the whole 9...that way they had a choice IF they wanted to ride the bull!! Your more of that father type, that slaps his kids around and yells at em when they don't listen at what you always say..or don't fully understand what your tellin em!! Tee hee...you don't mind if I use your tee hee do ya?? tee hee But I'm not knockin you for this...just not my way of doin things...hell, I'll answer some of the most simpliest questions in a nice way, just so I don't make the person feel stupid...call me a softy if ya like, but I know I was a newbie once that had similiar stupid questions before...so I never forget where I came from!! I guess you could compare us to farakan (sp?) and martin luther king...they both wanted the same thing, but had a different approach...we'll let you be farakhan and I be martin ...HEe hee

But anyways, so much more to say, but I'll end my piece here!! Nice to finally bump heads wit ya Bro...I ain't all the way hard headed and stuck into my own ways, so how about this one krusty...lemme get this mickey mouse krusty grow under my belt and we'll discuss this a bit more...I'll sit and listen to everything you have to say, because if you think I can do better, then hell...I'm wit it!! Deal?? See ya around Bro

Hey BOG...don't worry...I knew you was just playin

And no low blows while I'm gone!!! LOL!!


SQ

bazeado - i agree with yas...what you show looks like 4-5 lbs to me...which i guess is 2 kg....and it dont look much smaller pile then SQ...yet he is saying his was near 5 kg's....

as far as the god complex Bazeardo...i do it to get folks going....kinda like teasing arround...anyone who meet me in real life knows i am alot quieter and fully think i am purty much a dumb ass hick

bog no worries mate....but when YOU say something...these folks ..at least some of them....take it for face value....i truely think this guy is bs'n....again he has a sweet persona...makes ya wanna give sq a big ole hug n stuff..BUT...i look at his numbers and i call bulldhit...i have tried these toys/systems....and they are a waste of time and money....and i see you guys putting him up as a mod and the members of the community look up to you mods/admins n stuff....because if he is accepted by you guys then he must be real...

i full out agree this kid has talent and has some shit that i will look forward to seeing...

but when he cuts my methods down i dislike this .....him making comments about sinking the res in a concrete floor...LAME....i can teach almost anyone how to patch up the floor afterwords if need be...also if the kid read my posts he wuld see i give other options OTHER then sinking the res....and truely if they think this is damage it is NOTHING compared to replaceing the rotten out walls n shit that in most cases happens...
i saw in his thread a few comments...very subtle ...but him hacking up my methods to me aint kewlios:/

i asked a few times for the real numbers....how many lights he ussed....how much it all costed..and the total outcome...

he danced arround the questions how many times??? because he wants to show that this coli system can acheive high numbers....which it cant...

again not a pissing contest.....do you guys see me making money from my buckets?? am i advertising for anyone else???

ya okies i work for General Hydroponics...lmao are we seriously still thinking i am here to make money??

i tell folks to use bos lsd strain.....you guys think i make money off bog??? hell i even stated a few times that SQ genetics are sweet....hell order some seeds from him...lmao

couple weeks back gypsy asked me to do a article and mentioned something about doing a how to kinda thingy for this site....even dutchgrown asked if i wanted to do some sorta thingy at there cup...like a tutorial or something.....but i thought it was a joke as in playing arround with me....then ken told me he was probably serious and that it would be a paying gig....so i told gypsy that if he truely wanted me to quit my day job fine...but i would want a few grande a month to do articles/answer question on his mag/do a site handbook thingy....but gypsy wasnt intrested in paying for it kinda thingy....no prob i understand....i would gather he cant afford to hire people randomly...i know i wouldnt...but i cant make up articles/do shit propperly and maintain a living

so i wished this little idea that i am here to make money or that i am here as some sorta pissing contest or whatever would die off...some folks know me from back in the ole days...hemp bc site...that was like 1994 wasnt it??? its been 10 years that i have been online helping folks learn this method...sharring info.....cause its what i get off doing....i truely love spending my free time seeing people do shit in a crop or 2 instead of them going thru the shit i did...

also i LOVE the idea of legalizing this shit...and overgrowing the goverment will work....having folks growwing trees and making the shit availible on every steeet corner the way the goverment pushes alchohol down our throats is sweet to me....and i think this method is best suited for commercial growers because they produce more....they dont have a shit load of fucking arround to do (600-1000 clones to make 25 lbs compared ot my 10 clones) and the biggest factor is commercial/profesonaly/growers who do this to make money when they do get caught (notice i say when and not IF) but ya when they go to court they stand a chance.....sitting in front of a judge with 10 plants is purty much a walk in the park compared to sitting in front of the judge with 1200

anyhooo

lmao

syk..dewd i hear yas n stuff....yes this site has to make money....but they can do it without the gimmacks...push bogs lsd....hell push other strains for variety....but the growing forums should be kept real.....they dont need to be greedy and try and sell gimmacks to the growers out there

and syk you and i were both noobs too....i dont mind letting them have options....hell sell them coli's here...i got no prob with it..BUT....state the true numbers....tell these kids how it truely is...what is involved....and keep the numebrs real....ya that pile of weed SQ showed was large...to some kid who grows in a closet....but for the money/risk/time/effort put into that system it was a joke....the only people that could make that system run is someone like me/SQ/SKY....hell ya we could make it work....but we wouldnt buy into that crap would we??? because we know that there is better options for us out there...safer options....so if we all agree some nooby kid off the street cant make that system work (hence SQ who we all agree is a kick ass grower had one entire coli die on his ass) and we all realize the only person who would buy into this shit is that poor nieve kid...wtf are we doing allowing that kinda crap to go on???

oh syk...i wasnt directing that at yas or whatever....i was just saying i see why yas are thankful for the sites....but i just want you and others to see where i come from and why i sometimes go off on shit

anyhoo

peace

krusty

I unintentionally created a problem and...

I unintentionally created a problem and...

I really didn't mean that I doubted eithers word. I didn't really grow that plant in a 16 oz dixie cup but I never doubted the yields possible with systems like these.

You are correct Krusty that I should be more careful when kidding. I was afraid you really didn't like me Krusty and it made me feel so used and dirty. J/K... BOG

hey a light just beamed on my head and a boot fell out of the sky and knocked me on my nose!! How in the hell did this turn in this direction?? Dam you Krusty...now you got everybody thinkin I was advertising the COli!! Now I can see why your gettin a lil mushy on me...that wasn't the point!! I was simply showing you how I achieved 10 Bows from 3000w...that was a chapter in my growin life I shared wit people...them dam things are put up and probably will never come out again...so just to set the record straight...I am NOT advocating the use of this system!!! Was just sharing my experiences!! Your good!!

SQ

So Quick is great too

So Quick is great too

The year I won grower of the year at OG it was due mainly to my popularity. I was nominated for 4 catagories and I won or runnered up in all 4 of them. You see it was not fair because many thought So Quick should have won it. That's why I nominated So Quick for it this year.

I still fail to see how this thread ever went to the going to jail part of it. But, I am a bit slow. BOG

my past post was huge...so i didnt see SQ comments before i submitted...

ya okies....again you seem like a good person...but my feelings nor the others are truely hurt...at least i dont think...its just a good ole arguement...

but dewd..this comment...

"Your more of that father type, that slaps his kids around and yells at em when they don't listen at what you always say..or don't fully understand what your tellin em!!"

uhm...WTF???!!! lmao

if that is yer way of trying to make peace with me...uhm...i think yer stoned or completely whacked.....last year i dated this girl and she moved in with me...she had 2 kids.....she hit her oldest child in the face....it happened one time..warned her....second time i waited til kids went to bed then i tore a complete strip off her...had her in tears....3rd time i caught her hitting her child i kicked her ass out...only cause i wanted to harm her and thought it would be best for all she left.

my hitting kids or picking on somome smaller then me or helpless aint a compliment dewd....

i have never hit a child/women or anyone under 180 lbs...lmao

you full out have no idea what i am about....i tease noobs as i did with smithsutton but i sitll talked to him and showed him attention....i tear strips off mods and admins because they need it once in awhile....keep them in check kinda thing.


anyhoo....

peace

krusty

Tips hat to BOG I'll help ya catch up cuz I'm slow too See our friend Krusty here is appauled (sp?) by me growing in the coliseum...he thinks I'm a good grower but calls bullshit!! So in my defence, I go out and try to explain my achievments in more depth and what he now has me doing is going in a defensive mode which makes it appear to the normal eye, that I'm promoting for these thingy's!! But in reality I'm just tryin to show him that I too, achieved a lil above 3 Bows per light, but not by his standards!!And if I get any believers out there...which will all be newbies...I might be gettin em into trouble, because of the high plant count..hence the consequences

I'm kewl tho...once I complete my mickey mouse krusty system...I'll give hope to those that are a bit slow and can't follow direction too well...LMAO!!

Hey krusty...that was only a figure of speech!! Don't get so work up...it's obvious that we both have different point of views and don't fully understand one another...but I'm sure in the end..we'll be alright

Much Respect,

SQ

gawd....i wished my boot would reach you and you would grasp WHY i keep asking you this and you still say you got 10 lbs with 3000 watts...

YOU DIDNT....even you admit it but you dance arround it...

that would be like me saying i get 5 lbs per 1000 watts cause one of my plants got 5 lbs....

you had a grow going...and to do this grow you had 2 of these colis.....you had to pre grow with 3000 watts...and you had 6000 watts for flowering....this means you ran 9000 watts of lights to maintain this system...

the final result YOU say is 10 lbs...i disagree and i think a few others who saw yer pile disagree but whatever.....the bottom line you didnt get 3 lbs per bulb....

see your pre grow (where you had mothers) wasnt some small little closet..it was a ROOM....so it is part of it....you can say it was in a seperate room fine...but then you still have to use that power/space ussage to the fianl count...

with myself i simply grab cutting (all 20 of them...i aloow half to die even tho ususally only 2 or 3 do) but i wil go to a buddies and grab them ...or in my case i had multiple grow houses so i always had access to clones....no need to have a pre grow/veg room/mother room...but if somone is totally on there own at most they need is a 400 Mh to maintan some clones/pregrow...hell even a florotube is enough.....and that is all you need to grow 25 + lbs.....NOT 3,000 wattts...so this is why your 3,000 watts of mothers/clones MUST be included

peace

krusty

Dam Krusty...now you wanna kick me?? Thought you were against hittin people?? Okay, well then I got 1.?? per 1000 in your eyes, but to me, I still got 10 Bows from that single 3000w coli...so lets just say if I had these places split up...single house dedicated for supplying clips for this wacked out and dangerous operation...1 coli set up at one location and the other set up at a totally different location...now lets say I wanted to be a lil daring and throw up a KBS in one of these places...and say I had it put together how you do it, ie: sunken res, thomas compressor, lights & buckets lined up as you would like to see...And I pull off this amzing KBS grow which matched yours in your pics along wit a very sexy lookin coli grow...I would now have to tally up the numbers including my veg, coli, coli w/kbs???

both of you guys are excellent growers, but i truly like krusty system. Pictures do speak for them self. Everyone has his or her opinion. Krusty do talk some real knowledge. Jail ain't funny!!!!!
Plant count is a real issue in my part of town. The system is easy once you get the feel for it. It does produce big bud. My vote goes to krusty for this one. Krusty being the democratic and SQ being the Republican. In a perfect world there is debate and we having a good one here. I vote the clown for Mj king cultivator. Than again folks you have your rights to vote but i'm truly sold. Thank you SQ and Krusty you guys are the mighty force in the community.

Lordy Lordy

Lordy Lordy

Hey SQ,

How you gonna have the time to outgrow this sucka when yous is just sitting at the PC bitch-slappin' each other all day long

Krusty, big ups to your bud pics. I especially like the fact that you have the cahones to post a pic with the black-out of your face so badly done that the whole world can see who you are

Final thought - maybe these big yielders could do an informative thread on HOW they manage to manic these grande amounts (SQ, I know you gotta new toy to brag about), how about you Krusts .. use any labour-saving devices to tame that workload?

Congrates on the new mod statues So quick .sweet trees to m8 .

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Dam Krusty...now you wanna kick me?? Thought you were against hittin people?? Okay, well then I got 1.?? per 1000 in your eyes, but to me, I still got 10 Bows from that single 3000w coli...so lets just say if I had these places split up...single house dedicated for supplying clips for this wacked out and dangerous operation...1 coli set up at one location and the other set up at a totally different location...now lets say I wanted to be a lil daring and throw up a KBS in one of these places...and say I had it put together how you do it, ie: sunken res, thomas compressor, lights & buckets lined up as you would like to see...And I pull off this amzing KBS grow which matched yours in your pics along wit a very sexy lookin coli grow...I would now have to tally up the numbers including my veg, coli, coli w/kbs???

see...nice dance....and your only proving my point...

i aint taking the best of my buckets and posting those results...i am taking the 10,050 watts (add in the 50 watts for the florotube) and cumming up with my amounts....

YOU are not....you ussed 9000 watts to get 10 lbs.....

if you want to get perfectly techinical then this is how it should be calculated...

take the amount of kilowatt hours ussed in YOUR mother room/clonning/2 coli units...for the entire process.....then factor in the amount of pounds you got out of this system/set up...

now compare that to KBS.....you again will be less then half

quickly i think i would be at 9,240 kilowatt hours to produce 33.5 lbs...so it takes 275.82 kilowatts to produce 1 lb of weed in KBS

4536 kilowatts for yer flower....1134 for yer mother/clones....5670 to make 10 lbs....so it takes you 567 kilowatt hours to produce 10 lbs...

incase you dont understand this....basically the less energy you need to make a lb the better your doing...

you didnt get 3 lbs per 1000 watts...even if you only want to factor in the BEST of yer system/that particular grow you would have to include at least HALF of the 3000 watts ussed to clone/mother...which would mean you needed 4500 watts to maintain the one coli that got you 10 lbs...

that still equals out to 2.2 lbs ..EVEN IF we only take yer best parts...BUT..that is like me saying i get 5+ lbs per 1000 watts cause that is my best....

plus i am going to show you (as the balea guy sorta already did for me) that your pile was no freaking 10 lbs if it was then it was too wet and in 2 weeks yer bags would turn to mold

if you cannot grasp this......then i give up.....you are blinded by yer true goal of selling this system/getting the mvg award at og...lmao

well there is another award that means just as much to the real growers...and that is the pissant award....you dont want this award dewd

lmao

peace

krusty