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Old 01-11-2019, 04:43 PM #11
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Why would I reduce the size of the grow?
because the power company has all lot of info about your grow.

They just haven't put 2 & 2 together yet.

Depending on the power company to remain incompetent, is not a great plan.
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You have had a blessed gift for a long time,
the prudent thing may be to move on quietly.
Not sure that I would do that myself.
I would rent the place out to a company that I had set up and funded, so that it has a solid credit rating.
Would not change a thing other wise, and hope that the situation continues on.
I would rent it to a new company each year.
Logic being that if at some point it comes to their attention, they would not push for
recovery going back 7 or 8 years, but rather to the date the new account had been established.
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Old 01-12-2019, 01:50 AM #13
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You have had a blessed gift for a long time,
the prudent thing may be to move on quietly.
Not sure that I would do that myself.
I would rent the place out to a company that I had set up and funded, so that it has a solid credit rating.
Would not change a thing other wise, and hope that the situation continues on.
I would rent it to a new company each year.
Logic being that if at some point it comes to their attention, they would not push for
recovery going back 7 or 8 years, but rather to the date the new account had been established.
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Ya, I was thinking this.. the bill has never been in my name.. house either. Thinking I will probably transfer the account to my name and then inform them that I think the meter is broken...
I’ll end up having to pay for power again when they replace the meter... but it’s all the same to me.. I been paying my partner the full amount ($500 a month) for the entire time.. so he is really the one who made out ($) but I figure the house n elec is in his name so since it’s his gamble it should be his payout...
thanks for the input
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because the power company has all lot of info about your grow.

They just haven't put 2 & 2 together yet.

Depending on the power company to remain incompetent, is not a great plan.
Not sure what info a broken analog electric meter gives them? Perhaps I’m missing something?

Not really subject to prosecution in my state as weed is rec legal now...although admittedly I’d much prefer to not test that hypothesis...
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Could see it both ways, it doesn’t seem like they check equipment in your area. And if they found an issue, it doesn’t seem like they would have any way to know what past usage was.

Likely you would be aware of the discovery and deal with it at the time, as far as future usage. But maybe not, and then you’d have to wonder if they would put forth the effort to see what your actual monthly use is, seems unlikely but possible,

Other side of course is you are already majorly ahead with the power company. Everyone dreams of this scenario. Your electric is actually pretty cheap as it is, .33 kwh over in these parts. Had .08 in Missouri, sounds close to what your paying.

I know a guy who used to put in smart meters full time when they first started coming out in California. He requests an analog meter wherever he lives both to not be monitored and to avoid the peak pricing tiers they have in California. It’s .23 off peak and .33 peak, but you get limited off peak like several hundred a month before they charge straight .33 for the rest of your month.

I’m not sure how much he saves, and I’m not sure what the kWh rate is with analog, be surprised if it wasn’t an average between the tiers. It costs an extra 20$ a month with analog, and they check every other month.
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As long as the meter hasn’t been bypassed or slowed down in any way, I see zero reason not to continue on as is. Especially after all these years. And I am not so sure they’d have a leg to stand on when it comes to retroactive usage being paid out - usage they can’t even measure. Again, if no shady attempts to alter readings of the meter were undertaken, then the faulty meter falls to the responsibility of the provider, not the consumer. You do not own the meter. I do not see an argument for accountability on your part. Furthermore, it’s analog. Someone reads that meter every month. Since there’s no red flags when reading the meter, I would think you have little to worry about. Just pay the bill as usual - getting paid is all they care about. Eventually they will come knocking, looking to install a smart meter. From that point forward you probably won’t be so lucky. And it would be at that point that a discrepancy in usage *might* be noticed.

I would also lean on my partner a bit for assurance that way back when he didn't tamper with it...

About two years ago I got a letter from the township saying they needed to replace my water meter. Going digital. Talked about how great it would be and that it would likely save me money because the old analog meters were inefficient and inaccurate so I was most likely paying more for my water than I should. The last two years I haven't seen a water bill any where near as low as before the new meter went in.

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Old 01-13-2019, 01:11 AM #17
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Not sure what info a broken analog electric meter gives them? Perhaps I’m missing something?

Not really subject to prosecution in my state as weed is rec legal now...although admittedly I’d much prefer to not test that hypothesis...
You said 16x 600 watt'ers.

Un-announced, randomly scheduled & mandatory visits by strangers is a bad idea for us growers, is the basic idea I was going with.

The power company's system is (in a manner of speaking) leaking electricity. It's their job to figure out where the leak is. Which, obviously, can take some time. From the sound of it, it's a fair amount of electricity & money.

They could figure out ANY TIME that they need to investigate the leak.

It sounds like a sudden visit from a power company stranger wouldn't bother you. Times change, maybe they would see the situation, including the 16x 600 lights, and ask you to share some clones

Just because it looks like a security concern to me doesn't mean it's a security concern.

How about a pic of some buddage ? You must have some primo genetics if you're running 9600 watts.
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