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Old 01-08-2019, 06:34 PM #301
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Yea bro I had some bug issues last run and decided to clean everything and start fresh... Wasnt so sure how sucessfull it would come out but it seems the fuckers are gone! So def gonna pop them next run. I opted to run a few of the Bodhi 88g13 chem (HPD and Chem Kesey) crosses instead... Hopefully Ill find a keeper or two and on my next run pick a nice C4DD and hit them ladies with some cum shots from my best dude!


Ill be following your progress up close tho, so at least I get to experience them through you this round!
Sending positive vibes on the riddance of bugs! I had a little bout with them myself with my fist popped seeds of this season. Really set things back, and flat out sucked. I think they’re behind me now but I still have my fingers crossed. That’s cool about the 88g13 run! I have a lot of interest in those crosses too. I have DLA #7 and Grandma’s Hashplant and still may pick up Old School Hashplant. Had hoped to start them next fall but now not sure since I need to work through seeds in the vault of questionable viability. I will be watching for your Bohdi updates! Sure sounds like a great plan to make some seeds from those lines with C4DD - oh yeah!

99.5% sure I have four girls and five boys. Two are still trying to hold their secret, but I think I’ve seen enough to say 4 and 5. New tent is up and they’re moved in. Will be potting up the girls into 5g containers and flipping them this weekend. Really digging the stink on these plants!
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4 confirmed girls:

I have two plants still not 100% determined. But I am starting to think they may be girls. Here’s some pics of the four confirmed girls. The tallest, third from left, is ready to be potted up and that will most likely happen tomorrow. Grabbed some profile pics to show structure. As Keif reported and can be seen, these plants have a good deal of lateral branching that stretches. The runt that caught my eye early on is to the far right.

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Hey Shmavis, those plants look perfect!! You're gonna be mighty happy you started these in a few weeks when the frost covers and the chem aroma kicks in. Can't wait to see the finish. You may have mentioned earlier the lighting you have them under, but mine were flowered under 400 watts HPS in a crowded 4x4 space. I was thinking during that time that they would have loved some more light. Hoping you may have more power shining down on yours and we'll see how fatter your buds will finish.


I made a quite few F2s from my 3 moms, and plan to run more very soon. I also dusted up a nice Satori and a beautiful PCK with the same #8 male from that same grow. Can't wait to run some of those too. Thanks for the mention earlier, will watch yours as they progress.


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They look GREAT shmavis! fairly uniform too. Nice shot of the sidebranching, its always nice when those sidebranches stretch up to the canopy.
So does that leave 4 boys? how are they looking - did they get a lot taller than the girls?


can't see much or any leaf variegation either which is good.



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Hey Shmavis, those plants look perfect!! You're gonna be mighty happy you started these in a few weeks when the frost covers and the chem aroma kicks in. Can't wait to see the finish. You may have mentioned earlier the lighting you have them under, but mine were flowered under 400 watts HPS in a crowded 4x4 space. I was thinking during that time that they would have loved some more light. Hoping you may have more power shining down on yours and we'll see how fatter your buds will finish.


I made a quite few F2s from my 3 moms, and plan to run more very soon. I also dusted up a nice Satori and a beautiful PCK with the same #8 male from that same grow. Can't wait to run some of those too. Thanks for the mention earlier, will watch yours as they progress.


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Hey Keif, it was a well deserved shout-out, you did a helluva great job with those plants.

Thanks for the kind words and info. I had intended to flower these under a new Quantum Board panel that is supposed to be equivalent to an SE 1000w HID. However the aforementioned setback due to bugs has had me scrambling for space and time. As a result these will now be flowered under a 420w COB panel. I flowered under it last year and was overall very pleased with its performance (but that was done in an open room). I set off four other seeds at the same time as these and of those I am almost sure there’s only one girl. So there will be five girls under the panel in a 4 x 4 tent.

I would be lying if I were to say I am not nervous about this grow. I am already running into a bit of a quandary. I have grown in tents in the past but only with HID using air cooled hoods... I am finding that I can easily control the heat from the panel with negative pressure by way of an inline fan dialed all the way down with a speed controller. Finding temps between 76 - 78 and humidity right around 50. However when running this way the plants really look stressed. Look as though they need to be watered, even when they don’t. If I turn off the fan I am finding temps in the low eighties with humidity in the same range and even a little higher. In this environment the plants look fine. The pics I took were right after opening the tent when temp was 83 and humidity 85... so I need to look at some options for better controlling the environment in the tent... Hopefully I can get a handle on it.

Sounds like some great crosses you made - especially like the sound of PCK x C4DD! I'll be making some F2s as well.

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They look GREAT shmavis! fairly uniform too. Nice shot of the sidebranching, its always nice when those sidebranches stretch up to the canopy.
So does that leave 4 boys? how are they looking - did they get a lot taller than the girls?


can't see much or any leaf variegation either which is good.



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Thanks VG! I can tell they’re really wanting to be potted up and that should be happening tomorrow. I will at that time take two cuts from each girl. I am looking for a few plants this season as contenders to run outdoors. After reading back through the thread I found others who’d grown C4DD also reporting little stretch and that it does well outdoors. I hadn’t really been thinking of this line as an outdoor contender as much as I was Chem D x Pre-98.

Five boys. I’ll be shocked if I am mistaken, but it’s certainly possible. All nine plants have maintained a good deal of uniformity with the males, as a whole, not being any taller than the girls. Once the two runts caught up there hasn’t been any difference greater than four inches. They're a little crowded and not a great pic but I grabbed one of the boys...

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Old 01-13-2019, 03:56 AM #306
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The structure seems uniform in the line, be it girl or boy. Even the boys are creating a canopy, without being topped...

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thanks for the shots of the males shmavis, it's really useful to see a bunch of these C4DD grown out.
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thanks for the shots of the males shmavis, it's really useful to see a bunch of these C4DD grown out.
I thought you might like to see them.

I am only going to flower one to collect pollen from though. Made the selection today while also transplanting the four girls into “5g” containers and whacked the other four boys. It was hard to pick, what with them all being so similar. I will give the girls some time to settle in after the transplant, (and me some time to figure out how to control the tent) probably until Friday or Saturday, and then flip ‘em!

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He does look rather good. Nice structure and leaf form.


What your grow has confirmed to me so far is that another round of inbreeding - making F2s of the C4DD - should be fine because there is still plenty of vigor.
F2s of what is essentially a Chem D bx (with Chem 4 as the outcross) should give some more variation but with with plenty of Chem d and maybe more chem 4 traits in there.


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