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Old 09-15-2018, 07:17 AM #11
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You just overfed em some man.

Get some water pH'd, if you can and pour it in there and get that high salts water off that root zone so the plant can grow some more root hairs.

Get yourself a $9.99 PPM pen from Amazon or wherever, and you're golden. Those plants are way burned and it's part of life growing sativas, you burn em with what seems like perfectly reasonable amounts of nutes.

Cut that back, and right now - if there's a gallon of distilled water in your house right now, go and get it, and pour it all around that plant's roots,

to get some of the high salts off that root zone so the plant can start growing more root hairs.

If you wait till you have a pen no roots are gonna grow till you flush anyway. Flush that extra salts-hot water out of there.

IF you have to use tap, pour it over the roots and don't totally, totally flush the entirety of the salts water you have in their out.

You don't want to pH shock them by taking them from firmly acidic high salts water, to neutral, with only probably one main mineral in there calcium,as well as a little magnesium and maybe, some iron.

You really need pH'd water or you're gonna probably pH shock em.

Get a gallon of distilled or filtered water, - very low ppm, and do that. It doesn't matter if it's distilled or filtered, it's effectively the same as it relates to the task at hand, dilution of intense salts concentration on the roots,

just get those high salts off that root zone, so it can start growing some more root hairs.

Don't give it full light, when it's collapsing.
If it does collapse, shade it some.
Don't beat it up ya know?
When it's collapsing, drooping, the leaves are breathing out more water than the vascular system of the plant can deliver and sunlight fuels this outrunning of the water supply so - don't give em full sunlight when they're collapsing too bad, it's not real good for em.

When they're in full light, ya know, the water they breathe out, cools em - but if they're in full light and they sorta droop over, they're running a little water short; and if there's too much depletion, the cooling reduces and the leaves overheat and it's not best.

As you get a pH pen you're gonna be able to tell a lot better what's going on.

One of the VERY best things about a Hempy is if you f*** it up, a gallon or two of purified or properly dosed water and your problems are over; reload and go again. Don't despair, AT all.

When they get burned like that and they're a little skinny leaved sativathey don't really recover real fast so get that distilled water in around those roots asap and then get a pen and start mixing some mild nutes,

Peace on yas and yes - it's worth it to go to the store or look around the house for some distilled water, spend that two bucks, get the gallon water, and pour it into the plant's root zone right now.

At least, in the opinion of my therapist who I consult and consider responsible for anything I say.
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I'm having bad problems. drooping leaves, shock, yellow variegated leaves and burnt tips.


I have other suspects like my tap water but it's been fine in the past.



My tap water is about PH 7 and the MB brings it down to about PH 6. That's still the same because I tested it today.



At first I thought it was shock from too cold water but even if I let it sit over night it still shocks the plants.


Something else could be wrong like roots too wet when I transplant from my veg pot to flower pot that the root sit in nutes.


I don't have a reliable ppm meter and plan on ordering one today. I didn't need one until lately. It could be that I'm just drowning my roots.
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Get a powerful loupe or USB microscope and have a look under your leaves .

I think you have microscopic mites .

You may not be able to see mites . You may see their eggs and the damage and scarring on the under side of the leaves that shows up as those yellow flecks on the top side of the leaves .
The ends of the leaves turning to one side and non symmetrical leaves where one half remains under developed and hooks to one side . Are signs .

Look up broad and russet mites .
If suddenly the plant is struggling and seems to have a nute deficiency when your using inert medium and full range nutes it probably is some thing attacking the roots or mites .

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You just overfed em some man.

Get some water pH'd, if you can and pour it in there and get that high salts water off that root zone so the plant can grow some more root hairs.

Get yourself a $9.99 PPM pen from Amazon or wherever, and you're golden. Those plants are way burned and it's part of life growing sativas, you burn em with what seems like perfectly reasonable amounts of nutes.

Cut that back, and right now - if there's a gallon of distilled water in your house right now, go and get it, and pour it all around that plant's roots,

to get some of the high salts off that root zone so the plant can start growing more root hairs.

If you wait till you have a pen no roots are gonna grow till you flush anyway. Flush that extra salts-hot water out of there.

IF you have to use tap, pour it over the roots and don't totally, totally flush the entirety of the salts water you have in their out.

You don't want to pH shock them by taking them from firmly acidic high salts water, to neutral, with only probably one main mineral in there calcium,as well as a little magnesium and maybe, some iron.

You really need pH'd water or you're gonna probably pH shock em.

Get a gallon of distilled or filtered water, - very low ppm, and do that. It doesn't matter if it's distilled or filtered, it's effectively the same as it relates to the task at hand, dilution of intense salts concentration on the roots,

just get those high salts off that root zone, so it can start growing some more root hairs.

Don't give it full light, when it's collapsing.
If it does collapse, shade it some.
Don't beat it up ya know?
When it's collapsing, drooping, the leaves are breathing out more water than the vascular system of the plant can deliver and sunlight fuels this outrunning of the water supply so - don't give em full sunlight when they're collapsing too bad, it's not real good for em.

When they're in full light, ya know, the water they breathe out, cools em - but if they're in full light and they sorta droop over, they're running a little water short; and if there's too much depletion, the cooling reduces and the leaves overheat and it's not best.

As you get a pH pen you're gonna be able to tell a lot better what's going on.

One of the VERY best things about a Hempy is if you f*** it up, a gallon or two of purified or properly dosed water and your problems are over; reload and go again. Don't despair, AT all.

When they get burned like that and they're a little skinny leaved sativathey don't really recover real fast so get that distilled water in around those roots asap and then get a pen and start mixing some mild nutes,

Peace on yas and yes - it's worth it to go to the store or look around the house for some distilled water, spend that two bucks, get the gallon water, and pour it into the plant's root zone right now.

At least, in the opinion of my therapist who I consult and consider responsible for anything I say.

Thanks for all of this I'm on it. I ordered a meter on amazon as you said and will flush and have raised my lights.


I have 3 gallon hempy buckets of the perlite/verm 3:1 mix . How much water should I put through them to make sure they are fully flushed?
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The first time you lean & drain then re-pour, by drizzling the water around from the top, you're gonna stop all burning.

Would another lean & refill-to-drain, do better?

With that second wash you'd be [edit: hopefully] emphasizing the chemical signal to the plant overall,
trying to enhance kind of ion signaling,

by washing as much plant material,
with as pure a water dose possible,
more than relieving poisoning,

but then water's comparatively cheap,
trying to send that signal as clearly as ya can is therefore relatively cheap,

I would do it again.

It's gonna slow em down to repair and seal those vascular feeds where the cells died, so coddle em by trying to manipulate the environment. Mist them, and with distilled or filtered only for the time being since they've been nitrogen burned, keep the temps really in line, keep the humidity up some, don't dry em out with excessive fanning, chilling, etc. don't treat em for anything...

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You can replace all that ion signaling bull with ''wash em good'' if ya want to lol I'm just sO stoned.

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I usually give them a squirt of cal/mag at the beginning of the grow but rarely need to use it more than once or twice .
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