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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/j...n-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/

By James Delingpole Politics Last updated: November 20th, 2009

If you own any shares in alternative energy companies I should start dumping them NOW. The conspiracy behind the Anthropogenic Global Warming myth (aka AGW; aka ManBearPig) has been suddenly, brutally and quite deliciously exposed after a hacker broke into the computers at the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (aka Hadley CRU) and released 61 megabites of confidential files onto the internet. (Hat tip: Watts Up With That)
When you read some of those files – including 1079 emails and 72 documents – you realise just why the boffins at Hadley CRU might have preferred to keep them confidential. As Andrew Bolt puts it, this scandal could well be “the greatest in modern science”. These alleged emails – supposedly exchanged by some of the most prominent scientists pushing AGW theory – suggest:
Conspiracy, collusion in exaggerating warming data, possibly illegal destruction of embarrassing information, organised resistance to disclosure, manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in their public claims and much more.
One of the alleged emails has a gentle gloat over the death in 2004 of John L Daly (one of the first climate change sceptics, founder of the Still Waiting For Greenhouse site), commenting:
“In an odd way this is cheering news.”
But perhaps the most damaging revelations – the scientific equivalent of the Telegraph’s MPs’ expenses scandal – are those concerning the way Warmist scientists may variously have manipulated or suppressed evidence in order to support their cause.
Here are a few tasters. (So far, we can only refer to them as alleged emails because – though Hadley CRU’s director Phil Jones has confirmed the break-in to Ian Wishart at the Briefing Room – he has yet to fess up to any specific contents.) But if genuine, they suggest dubious practices such as:
Manipulation of evidence:
I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.
Private doubts about whether the world really is heating up:
The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t. The CERES data published in the August BAMS 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is inadequate.
Suppression of evidence:
Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4?
Keith will do likewise. He’s not in at the moment – minor family crisis.
Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don’t have his new email address.
We will be getting Caspar to do likewise.
Fantasies of violence against prominent Climate Sceptic scientists:
Next
time I see Pat Michaels at a scientific meeting, I’ll be tempted to beat
the crap out of him. Very tempted.
Attempts to disguise the inconvenient truth of the Medieval Warm Period (MWP):
……Phil and I have recently submitted a paper using about a dozen NH records that fit this category, and many of which are available nearly 2K back–I think that trying to adopt a timeframe of 2K, rather than the usual 1K, addresses a good earlier point that Peck made w/ regard to the memo, that it would be nice to try to “contain” the putative “MWP”, even if we don’t yet have a hemispheric mean reconstruction available that far back….
And, perhaps most reprehensibly, a long series of communications discussing how best to squeeze dissenting scientists out of the peer review process. How, in other words, to create a scientific climate in which anyone who disagrees with AGW can be written off as a crank, whose views do not have a scrap of authority.
“This was the danger of always criticising the skeptics for not publishing in the “peer-reviewed literature”. Obviously, they found a solution to that–take over a journal! So what do we do about this? I think we have to stop considering “Climate Research” as a legitimate peer-reviewed journal. Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal. We would also need to consider what we tell or request of our more reasonable colleagues who currently sit on the editorial board…What do others think?”
“I will be emailing the journal to tell them I’m having nothing more to do with it until they rid themselves of this troublesome editor.”“It results from this journal having a number of editors. The responsible one for this is a well-known skeptic in NZ. He has let a few papers through by Michaels and Gray in the past. I’ve had words with Hans von Storch about this, but got nowhere. Another thing to discuss in Nice !”
Hadley CRU has form in this regard. In September – I wrote the story up here as “How the global warming industry is based on a massive lie” – Hadley CRU’s researchers were exposed as having “cherry-picked” data in order to support their untrue claim that global temperatures had risen higher at the end of the 20th century than at any time in the last millenium. Hadley CRU was also the organisation which – in contravention of all acceptable behaviour in the international scientific community – spent years withholding data from researchers it deemed unhelpful to its cause. This matters because Hadley CRU, established in 1990 by the Met Office, is a government-funded body which is supposed to be a model of rectitude. Its HadCrut record is one of the four official sources of global temperature data used by the IPCC.
I asked in my title whether this will be the final nail in the coffin of Anthropenic Global Warming. This was wishful thinking, of course. In the run up to Copenhagen, we will see more and more hysterical (and grotesquely exaggerated) stories such as this in the Mainstream Media. And we will see ever-more-virulent campaigns conducted by eco-fascist activists, such as this risible new advertising campaign by Plane Stupid showing CGI polar bears falling from the sky and exploding because kind of, like, man, that’s sort of what happens whenever you take another trip on an aeroplane.
The world is currently cooling; electorates are increasingly reluctant to support eco-policies leading to more oppressive regulation, higher taxes and higher utility bills; the tide is turning against Al Gore’s Anthropogenic Global Warming theory. The so-called “sceptical” view is now also the majority view.
Unfortunately, we’ve a long, long way to go before the public mood (and scientific truth) is reflected by our policy makers. There are too many vested interests in AGW, with far too much to lose either in terms of reputation or money, for this to end without a bitter fight.
But if the Hadley CRU scandal is true,it’s a blow to the AGW lobby’s credibility which is never likely to recover.
 

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Global warming was/is one of the greatest manifestations of human arrogance to date.

Now it's called climate change though since the earth is cooling. Oops. Gotta fight climate change. Does anyone think that sounds totally retarded. Kind of like FIGHT THE UNIVERSE FROM EXPANDING!!

BTW, I believe in energy conservation and the search for renewable energy. I don't like pollution any more than the next guy, but global warming has always been a joke to me.
 
This kind of presupposes that the theory of Global Warming has been solely concocted by Hadley CRU.

In Australia we have our own scientific bodies (public, private and independent) who would love to believe such nonsense that humans are not having a discernible effect on local and global climate. If this were true we would not have to combat the ever-increasing incidence of dust storms, bushfires and floods.

Popular opinion actually does support the theory. As does popular science. Well any science. This conspiracy theory suggests that evidence has been implanted over the last 30 years to support the AGW theory.

Ok, perhaps it is possible to implant evidence within one research body. However at any one point in the world there are millions of thermometers, hygrometers, particulate meters, etc, etc recording various atmospheric, oceanic and geographic data.

The coalition of this data suggests many possibilities, most are undesirable for humans.

Oh and if you still don't believe that it exists just look at the ever-shrinking arctic circle. Whether man-made or not none of us want to see the ice-caps melt due to the catastrophic impact it will have on mankind.

If the ice caps melt (and thus the tiberian tundra and all other large snowfields) a large amount of stored methane and CO2 will be released into the atmosphere. (You think cows fart and it doesn't go anywhere?). Anyway as that methane and CO2 is released it will hasten the process of release (methane and CO2 very good insulators) thus leading to the boiling away of earths oceans (imagine if you will a kettle left on the boil all day, the constant heat of the sun combined with the increased insulation of earth).

There is a 1 in 2 chance that by destroying this planet we will destroy the only known life in the universe/multiverse/computer simulation. Think about what you consume and you won't need to worry.

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Global warming does not necessarily suggest a warming in all climates Spastic Gramps. In fact it is likely that many parts of the UK and US will experience increased rainfall and lower temperatures. In other simulations the whole of California is a dustbed as with the majority of equatorial countries.
 

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Global warming does not necessarily suggest a warming in all climates Spastic Gramps. In fact it is likely that many parts of the UK and US will experience increased rainfall and lower temperatures. In other simulations the whole of California is a dustbed as with the majority of equatorial countries.

I know. Global cooling would actually be the end result of significant global warming because the ice caps melt which effects the salinity of the ocean. The global conveyor belt, if you will, slows or stops causing an ice age.

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I still don't buy into humans being the cause.
 

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Mirrors in space? Salty clouds?

Mirrors in space? Salty clouds?

Scientists weigh drastic cures for climate change
By Andy Blatchford, THE CANADIAN PRESS

MONTREAL - While world leaders gear up to discuss reducing emissions, a growing community of scientists is looking to far more drastic solutions they say could one day save the world from the impact of global warming.

The field of geoengineering has spawned a host of Earth-cooling ideas to deliberately meddle with Mother Nature and stave off the potential effects of melting permafrost and rising sea levels.

One idea being bounced around involves launching mirrors into outer space to reflect sunlight.

Another would block out solar radiation by blanketing blue skies with perpetually overcast conditions.

But tricky questions remain: Will the remedies further endanger the Earth? Will humans be tempted to use geoengineering solutions as a quick fix instead of curbing greenhouse-gas emissions?

As countries prepare for a UN climate conference in Copenhagen next month, these are some of the thorny questions about to be addressed at a much smaller gathering in Montreal.

A panel of climate-change experts will gather at McGill University on Thursday to debate the potential ethical, political, and scientific impacts of geoengineering.

"My first idea (about geoengineering) - like everybody's first idea - was that it was crazy," said David Keith, Canada Research Chair in Energy and the Environment at the University of Calgary.

"That we should put more pollution in the stratosphere to compensate for the pollution that we've already put in the rest of the atmosphere - it's just insane."

Geoengineering ideas have been around for decades, but they took off in 2006 after Nobel laureate Paul Crutzen wrote about sending sulfate aerosols into the stratosphere to block out the sun's rays.

Earlier this month, the U.S. Congress - in conjunction with the British Parliament - held its first-ever hearing on geoengineering.

When Keith, who first heard about geoengineering in 1989, took a closer look at some of the ideas, he realized that humans have the capacity to manage some of the "very real" climate threats.

"The central reason why we need (geoengineering) is the risks of climate change are quite uncertain," said Keith, who has served on advisory panels for the U.K.'s Royal Society geoengineering study and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

But Keith has also long feared that geoengineering proposals could entice world leaders to abandon existing efforts against climate change.

"Of course I think it's dangerous - I think that's also a widely shared view," he said.

"But I do think that if we are serious about managing climate risk, we do need to develop - over decades, not years - the capability to do it."

In the last few years, more and more scientists have been running models on possible last-ditch options if current efforts fail.

Some believe they could also come in handy if climate change hits the planet harder than expected.

Alan Robock, a climatologist who testified this month before U.S. Congress, said humans might be able to cool the Earth by mimicking the after-effects of a volcanic eruption - either by firing particles into the stratosphere with artillery or through a 40-kilometre hose strapped to a balloon.

Another prominent proposal to manage solar radiation involves brightening clouds above the oceans by spewing salt particles into the bottom of them from ships.

But models have shown that some ideas pose major risks themselves. One suggested the Amazon forest would die from drought if clouds over the Atlantic Ocean were brighter.

Robock said that although geoengineering creates a "moral hazard," more research is necessary in case humans fail to curb emissions or adapt to rising temperatures.

"Our response should be mitigation - geoengineering will not solve the problem for us," said Robock, a climatology professor at Rutgers University.

"It could perhaps be used in a planetary emergency sometime in the future if we can be sure that the consequences of geoengineering would not be worse than not doing it."

Robock said the term geoengineering could be defined to include the pricey carbon-capture-and-storage technology - when carbon dioxide is taken out of the atmosphere and injected underground.

That technology is the closest Canada has come to investing in geoengineering research.

Last month, the federal and Alberta governments promised $865 million for a carbon capture and storage project near Edmonton.

Environment Canada does not consider carbon capture and storage as geoengineering because it is geared to control emissions at the source, a department spokeswoman said.

She wrote in an email that Environment Canada is not currently researching geoengineering solutions to counter the effects of climate change.

Keith, who plans to speak to Environment Minister Jim Prentice about geoengineering in the spring, said Canada, like more and more governments, should get involved.

He also warns that Canada might get left behind when the international community decides who gets to control the global "thermostat" - if in fact the world builds one in the future.

"Canada is a northern nation with a big chunk of the Arctic, which faces the most rapid climate change, so it's a country that you might expect to be concerned in a serious way about how you manage the problem," Keith said.



http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Environment/2009/11/18/11800151-cp.html

Another would block out solar radiation by blanketing blue skies with perpetually overcast conditions.
 
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approx 90% of the scientific community believes we are accelerating the change of the earths climate
 
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MoldyFrogToe

I trust science, it'll work itself out just like it always has.

Science is all we have to rely on. It's pretty obvious that we're changing the world though in more ways than just the clmate.
 

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I believe what has happened is over the years more and more humans have populated this earth... and when this happened we all kept right on FARTING.

If we all hold our farts we will be ok!
Especially Mexican food farts, they will make us go into a ice age within the next 10-15 years.

And there are like 54 species of aleins according to some, I have not met ONE but hey they are there!
 

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90% of the scientist use to think the world was flat too. The earth's climate has always been violent. Ice ages? Dinosaurs didn't drive cars and neither did the dudes back in the "Little Ice Age" during the dark ages. Europe was a big ice cube back then.
 

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The hacked files are available in .zip for download here:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=75J4XO4T

There's emails from the creator of Al Gore's "hockey stick" graphic talking about how it was manipulated.

The issue isn't whether the planet is warming or cooling. History shows clearly that the planet goes through natural climate cycles based mainly on the activity of the sun. The issue is that politicians, bankers and corporations are trying to turn minor, natural climate changes into "OMGZ!!! We're all gonna die if you don't pay more TAXES to SAVE THE PLANET!!" Wall St and the other financial centers of the world are already licking their chops waiting for "CO2 Carbon Offset Credits" to become mandatory and therefore another new financial bubble to raid and exploit. Just do a basic google search for "investment banks carbon credits" and similar and you'll see. There's nothing wrong with working to reduce pollution voluntarily or cooperatively. The problem is when governments want to tax people just to exist, because of changes in the minor natural climate cycles. It's a SCAM. Just like the dot.com scam, the housing scam, etc.

If anything I would think growers wouldn't fall for this nonsense since we know that our plants THRIVE under much higher CO2 levels than we currently live with. Plants LOVE high CO2. How is that supposed to kill everyone?
 

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I was going to add for the last 10,000 years our climate has been unusually constant. We are do for an Ice Age. Big or little.
 

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That isn't true.

Umm, the idea of a spherical Earth didn't come about until Ancient Greek times. Presocratic Pythagoreans believed the world was flat. Philosphoy and science were closely intertwined then as they are now. Quantum Physics anyone?
 
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