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Stage 4 Cancer Patient & RSO/PhoenixTears

LostTribe

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Premium user
When it comes to cancer, there is another option, and it may be the best with marijuana. You will get the terpenes and everything in between. There is just one problem. The process can take 6 months or more.

Naturally decarbed buds (no heat). For instance; I had some Space Dawg buds, dried and cured, stored in a sealed jar, in a dark place, at room temperature, for 6 months. I took it out and rolled a joint. Funny, when I opened the jar, it had a pop, I believe this is due to the creation of CO2 during the decarbing process. Anyway, I cut the joint in half and ate it. It took 4 to 6 hours before I felt it, but when I felt it, it seemed like I may have taken a bit too much. I offered me around a 24 hour buzz. I tried it with my strawberry cough, that required an entire joint and only offered a 12 hour buzz. The SBC had only been stored for about 4 months, so it may not have been fully decarbed.

I still love the oil though.

Theres a gentleman on the ace forum that cannot smoke and decarbs his in the oven and eats the buds I think his name is like Tangwenza or something.
 

whiteberrieS

Active member
Veteran
Backdoor Medicine: How Cannabis Suppositories Can Save Lives
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By Nicholas Fraleigh

This is a common reaction to the suggestion that cannabis can be used as a suppository. Rectal administrations (suppositories) have an unfairly bad reputation in North America, despite the diverse benefits they offer. This article aims to educate about the advantages associated with the rectal application of cannabis and provide a simple set of guidelines for the effective use of suppositories.

There are many advantages to the rectal administration of cannabis not afforded by other routes. Medicine may still be administered even if the oral route is impaired (e.g., due to vomiting, an injured jaw or throat, or gastrointestinal difficulties) or disallowed due to the oral intake restrictions that are frequently required both before and after surgery. Avoiding the gastrointestinal tract also prevents first-pass metabolism by the stomach and liver, which break down many different molecules into their constituent parts (including Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol, otherwise known as THC), and allows the active constituents to reach the blood in much higher concentrations.

In the case of THC, the liver transforms around half of what is ingested into the significantly more psychoactive metabolite 11-Hydroxy-Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol. While not harmful in and of itself and potentially of therapeutic benefit, this molecule causes much more intense cognitive effects than THC. Rectal administration not only avoids these effects, but also allows a much greater proportion of THC to eventually reach the blood stream. This increase in overall efficiency is also shown in the different levels of bioavailability that different administration routes afford, as seen in Fig. 1. Rectal administration also allows for medicine to exert effects over localized ailments (e.g., hemorrhoidal tissue, inflammation of the rectum, or tumours in the rectal cavity). This form of use also has a much faster uptake than oral administration (around 10 minutes, on average) and leads to more consistent blood concentrations of the active constituents. The speed and reliability of their uptake combined with their circumvention of many of the issues surrounding both ingestion and inhalation make rectal applications an excellent addition to both new and pre-existing therapeutic regimens.image


Fig. 1 – Comparative bioavailability of different administration routes
Inhalation : 10 – 25% efficiency, highly variable, depends largely on the individual’s level of experience
Oral : around 20% efficiency, highly variable, even between doses within a single individual
Rectal : around 50% – 70% efficiency, with predictable effects even between different individuals

When designing a personalized medication regimen, it is important to know the various timings involved with a given administration route. With suppositories, most people will begin to notice initial effects within the first 10 – 15 minutes after insertion. These effects usually last for between 4 – 8 hours, depending on the individual’s physiology and tolerance to cannabis. This swift increase in effect allows for acute dosing in many cases, although this depends both on the situation and on specific individual needs. There are several issues that can slow absorption from the rectum to the blood stream. Diarrhea and fecal matter can slow or prevent the active ingredients from reaching the rectal wall and being absorbed. Tumours or cysts on the rectal wall can also slow or prevent absorption. In this case, less medicine would reach the blood, but as the tumours are likely the intended target(s) of the suppository, the direct delivery of the active constituents may help prevent an overall reduction in efficacy. Finally, rectal dehydration can drastically reduce the effectiveness of suppositories. Staying well hydrated by maintaining a healthy consumption of both water and electrolytes should prevent this in most cases, but specific medical conditions may cause it as well, in which case the solution may not be as simple. As always, if there are concerns, a medical professional should be consulted.

Anyone who decides to take advantage of the benefits provided by suppositories should do so with a good understanding of the process involved. Although not overly complex, the few simple instructions outlined below will enable their effective use.
Instructions

-Before insertion

It is important to wash your hands thoroughly before insertion of a suppository, as germs and bacteria can enter the body through the rectum.

Disposable medical gloves or a finger cot can be used for this purpose.

Ensure that fingernails are trimmed and have no sharp edges.

Ensure the suppository is firm enough to insert.

If it is too soft, harden it in the package by placing it in either the fridge or freezer.

Suppositories can also be quickly hardened in the package by running cold water over them.

If only half of a suppository is being used, cut it lengthwise to make insertion easier.

When cutting, make sure to use a sterile knife or scissors.

Avoid sharp edges! Suppositories can be gently smoothed by hand.

-Insertion

Lie on your preferred side with your top leg pulled up towards your chest.

Lift your upper butt-cheek to expose your rectum.

Insert the suppository lengthwise, with the pointed tip first, using your index finger to push the suppository in.

-Placement

Ensure the suppository has been inserted past the anal sphincter. If not inserted fully past the sphincter, some or all of the suppository may be expelled without the active ingredients reaching the rectal wall and being absorbed into the blood stream.

It is important to not place the suppository too high up in the rectum.

If placed too high, the active constituents will enter the Superior (upper) hemorrhoidal artery, which leads to the liver. This presents the same problem as oral application, as the liver will metabolize a significant proportion of the active ingredients.

The suppository should ideally be placed around 2 ½ to 4 centimetres (1 to 1 ½ inches) into the rectum, just past the anal sphincter.

-After insertion

Hold your buttocks together and tightly squeeze the muscles in your sphincter for a few seconds after insertion to help keep the suppository from sliding out.

Remain lying on your side for several minutes after insertion to allow the suppository to fully diffuse through the rectum. This will also help to prevent the unintended expulsion of the suppository.

Dispose of the glove or finger cot sanitarily and wash your hands thoroughly using soap and hot water, paying extra attention to cleaning under the nails and between the fingers.

Be very aware of the possibility of unintended expulsion of melted suppository residue during flatulence over the next few hours after insertion. If you have ANY doubts, use a toilet.

In order to better serve our diverse member base, we at the V-CBC are currently developing a selection of 3 distinct types of suppositories. With the different constituents and therefore different effects provided by each kind, we hope to be able to supply a suppository that works ideally for each member and their specific condition.
Maintenance strength (low dose)
For those with a lower tolerance to the effects of cannabis and for consistent dosing over the course of an entire day.
Ingredients:

Organic cocoa butter Three kinds of cannabis inflorescences (flowers) infused into organic coconut butter.
Breakthrough strength (high dose)
A strong dose, useful for those with a high tolerance to the effects of cannabis and for those days in which symptoms are especially intense.

Ingredients:
Organic cocoa butter
Three kinds of cannabis trichomes (hash) infused into organic coconut butter.
PS. There are many opinions on THC and CBD. Rick healed his patients with high THC from bud. So if you want to take CBD buy
it on Amazon and suppliment with it. We have tried adding high CBD and it made our batch come out lower THC because the high
CBD bud diluted the whole batch. So we try to make the strongest THC batch we can.
 

whiteberrieS

Active member
Veteran
So it may be beneficial to have high THC oil and seperate high CBD oil for max effect.

Sorry I've been late on the CBD strain report

Harlequinns if you can find em, Bodhi's GoodMedicine, Rare Dankness Harlox; but it looks like as long as you have quality oil with high THC it will do the job with the bit of CBD it has in there. Unless youre like me, and somehow find some RSO with 0.00% CBD

And as Nicholas says there's CBD hemp oil available on amazon.
 

wantaknow

ruger 500
Veteran
Sorry for the late reply hope all is well , can't hurt , Gods cure is best , try it all but don't do chemo , if dying , why take a poison ? , best of luv to u and yours
 
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tazz11

WhiteberrieS :


they say use indicia because it grows faster that's the only reason IMHO .. see you need so much oil fast when your fighting the fight .. the best I have read about is the Sativa but it as you know it takes a longer time most cant wait ...that's why I am working with the rare strain Abducted ... it is a sequence of 7 hybrids .. made as a cancer med weed strain ..the reason the Sativa is the choice is the clear head and soft creeper deep body effect . the out body is a big plus for a med weed ...Cancer even more so ...


I am not going to side step the cancer part with you . I have lost 4 so far in the last 5 years ..


details I am a full out breeder . fill me in and let me now how things are going .. a breeder can refine the oil and help you get the best cure you can ...


I will be testing a new system to make large amounts of RSO a different way .. I have done it once and it works I need to define the system for 5 lbs at a time , it should make 4 cups of oil for each batch ...


see THC is not the active agent so heating the oil lessens the effects of the THC any way ...so how much THC is in your strain has little to do with the out come .the best oil is super thin..no not thick ,thin can be dissolved in the body faster ..more shock and Aw to the cancer ...IMHO ..


.this is just my theory but .. IMHO the cannabis oil has a effect on the surface tension of the cell walls .. a light oil like shell covers the cell on the out side . when cancer comes in contact with the liquid shell .it starts to attack it . and as it weakens its cohesion between the shell and the wall of the inner cell is used by the cancer to attack the inner cell .. now as the cannabis oil makes the outer liquid shell stronger . it also covers the cancer when it comes in contact with it the same it dose to the cell but cancer drowns or smothers when covered with this super thin oil. see this tells me that cancer can not mix with the thin oil .. un like water that our bodies are made up of ...so when the thin oil covers the cancer it has no abilities to get oxygen to stay alive , once dead it is expelled by the body's normal cleaning system ...
as a mechanical genius this is my theory of how it works and why ....and this explains why cancer dose what it dose .. as you take large amounts of thin oil it is used by the body and the less oil in your system the more risk you have of getting some types of cancer as the modern world of products have less oils the cell walls have developed thinner and thinner threw the years ...so if my theory is correct you can under stand how your actions can effect the cancer you have ...and this is why chemo is not the answer or cure it is a Band-Aid on a killers forehead......


this theory is how I design the Abducted hybrids , the theory is simple ,not all humans have the same reaction to a given strain base, so to define which hybrid works the best we needed 7 hybrids that all were created from the same sativa base stock , in this way we can define which one has the best effects on a given case ...and we have a 7 day week test to pick the correct hybrid ...


6 years of hard work and long hours ..if I can save even one life it will be well worth the effort ...and others can use what I have learn to help them self's....


it could take a lab and dozens of staff and workers 20 years to do what I have done in 6 years ,
mad skills ,yes . but a simple reason .. when they are gone, I miss them ...!
 
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Galaxy420

Active member
WhiteberrieS :


they say use indicia because it grows faster that's the only reason IMHO .. see you need so much oil fast when your fighting the fight .. the best I have read about is the Sativa but it as you know it takes a longer time most cant wait ...that's why I am working with the rare strain Abducted ... it is a sequence of 7 hybrids .. made as a cancer med weed strain ..the reason the Sativa is the choice is the clear head and soft creeper deep body effect . the out body is a big plus for a med weed ...Cancer even more so ...


I am not going to side step the cancer part with you . I have lost 4 so far in the last 5 years ..


details I am a full out breeder . fill me in and let me now how things are going .. a breeder can refine the oil and help you get the best cure you can ...


I will be testing a new system to make large amounts of RSO a different way .. I have done it once and it works I need to define the system for 5 lbs at a time , it should make 4 cups of oil for each batch ...


see THC is not the active agent so heating the oil lessens the effects of the THC any way ...so how much THC is in your strain has little to do with the out come .the best oil is super thin..no not thick ,thin can be dissolved in the body faster ..more shock and Aw to the cancer ...IMHO ..


.this is just my theory but .. IMHO the cannabis oil has a effect on the surface tension of the cell walls .. a light oil like shell covers the cell on the out side . when cancer comes in contact with the liquid shell .it starts to attack it . and as it weakens its cohesion between the shell and the wall of the inner cell is used by the cancer to attack the inner cell .. now as the cannabis oil makes the outer liquid shell stronger . it also covers the cancer when it comes in contact with it the same it dose to the cell but cancer drowns or smothers when covered with this super thin oil. see this tells me that cancer can not mix with the thin oil .. un like water that our bodies are made up of ...so when the thin oil covers the cancer it has no abilities to get oxygen to stay alive , once dead it is expelled by the body's normal cleaning system ...
as a mechanical genius this is my theory of how it works and why ....and this explains why cancer dose what it dose .. as you take large amounts of thin oil it is used by the body and the less oil in your system the more risk you have of getting some types of cancer as the modern world of products have less oils the cell walls have developed thinner and thinner threw the years ...so if my theory is correct you can under stand how your actions can effect the cancer you have ...and this is why chemo is not the answer or cure it is a Band-Aid on a killers forehead......


this theory is how I design the Abducted hybrids , the theory is simple ,not all humans have the same reaction to a given strain base, so to define which hybrid works the best we needed 7 hybrids that all were created from the same sativa base stock , in this way we can define which one has the best effects on a given case ...and we have a 7 day week test to pick the correct hybrid ...


6 years of hard work and long hours ..if I can save even one life it will be well worth the effort ...and others can use what I have learn to help them self's....


it could take a lab and dozens of staff and workers 20 years to do what I have done in 6 years ,
mad skills ,yes . but a simple reason .. when they are gone, I miss them ...!

don't forget the omega fats needed for health too which American diet lacks...

also, here is some patent info confirming some of your theory...

Phytocannabinoids in the treatment of cancer
US 20130059018 A1
Abstract
This invention relates to the use of phytocannabinoids, either in an isolated form or in the form of a botanical drug substance (BDS) in the treatment of cancer. Preferably the cancer to be treated is cancer of the prostate, cancer of the breast or cancer of the colon.
 
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tazz11

I have taken some real flack over braking my link to the other growers in this area to do these cancer med weed strains ..every one was thinking I had lost it till are friend lost his life to lung cancer ..one of the best out door growers around and he had almost no idea what RSO was or how to make it , just like my brother he had 5 months ,not enough time to even make it ...and my sister has a few months after I harvest so it going to be the fastest RSO ever made ....


there are people waiting standing in line and I have already had greed step up and ask if they could get some no matter what the cost and that makes me want to punch them out ...most of them don't even have cancer they just want it on hand just in case and they say they can afford it ,.,, not here they cant ...


if your a vet in the US your as good as dead the VA wont give you RSO ..


if your all smart take time to make you some just in case .. learn how to make it and don't tell any one ...its like having gold bars stacked in your back room ...just as dangerous too...
 

burningfire

Well-known member
Veteran
it's indica not indicia

but thanks for the hours of entertainment you provide me and the whole forum.. there's some classic lines buried in your posts
 
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tazz11

it's indica not indicia

but thanks for the hours of entertainment you provide me and the whole forum.. there's some classic lines buried in your posts


your off topic .. direct your reply to the topic not at other members ...
 
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burningfire

Well-known member
Veteran
in what world is it indicia? I would like to know, or is this another one of your pathological lie?

indicia means label, indica is what you want to spell.
 
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tazz11

in what world is it indicia? I would like to know, or is this another one of your pathological lie?

indicia means label, indica is what you want to spell.[/quote , this post is not the place for you to play ...
 
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