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Old 02-12-2018, 03:14 AM #11
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It's an opioid when the definition is action on opioid receptors. Like tramadol. It's still fake news because that's been known since way before it became popular on drug boards much less the public. They're just taking advantage of the situation and weaponizing the term. The FDA has been going after herbs since ephedra and have you tried buying that in the US since 04. Kratom hysterics is just something a lot of people can use to their advantage. How much good kratom is there now anyways - you'd think producers would be having problems supplying so many tons of quality product at some point but it will be easier after the coming ban. Kratom must be flying off the shelves and into freezers in the US now.
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:26 AM #12
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It's an opioid when the definition is action on opioid receptors. Like tramadol. It's still fake news because that's been known since way before it became popular on drug boards much less the public. ...

that's right
claims can not be refuted when you make the definitions
wonderful power that
schedule 1 here we come, or is that a tiny bead of sweat on the FDA's lip?
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This sucks cause I wanted to use it for my alcoholism.
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The world should start over.
Recapitulation...
Coming soon to an earth near you.

Better get that kratom folks...

Will it grow up here in the North? (IDK)
If so... get seeds!
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Old 02-20-2018, 12:49 AM #15
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In Middle School I remember the teachers were hot on the idea that if one person behaves irresponsibly everyone should lose their privilege. It pissed me off then and it pisses me off now. A public school run by proto-fascists is ideal for preparing kids for the real world.
They keep closing the doors on people's options.
They push the hell out of oxycontin, create an epidemic of their own making. Then they say it's bad and remove it. Without presenting a safer alternative when there's plenty of safer alternatives.
Hell, percodan was safer but you don't see that anymore. It punishes the junkies and the people who actually need pain relief alike. hey're on a witch hunt, moral panic, for anything associated with opiates. Bad news for people getting relief from Kratom.
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This is ludicrous.

Like can you extract codeine and morphine or make heroin with Kratom?

I say no. So it's not an opiate producing plant according to me and science.

Those lawmakers don't know what they are talking about once again.
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and i see a recent study that alcohol affects the human endocannabinoid system
damn, no help for that i guess, another prohibition needs doing
and coffee drinkers? we're coming for you next
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The deck stackers are big on getting rid of unneeded rules and regulations for corporations.
They have no qualms at all in imposing additional regulations on people.
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The deck stackers are big on getting rid of unneeded rules and regulations for corporations.
They have no qualms at all in imposing additional regulations on people.
Haven't you heard? The SCOTUS declared Corporations are people too. Of course, they're 'special' people with more rights than 'real' people.
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It's complete bullshit that you can die from kratom. Any death is a result from combining it with alcohol, benzo, or other depressant. I proved this by taking 28 grams of 50x Kratom extract while under the supervision of a nurse. I was severely nauseated, extremely motion sick, puked my ass off for hours, but my blood pressure, heart rate and respiration were never affected.
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