thanks im really excited about it. im for sure going to make f2s so i can have a good group of beans to fish through for a keeper. ive had blackberry before and it looked like ass and was some of the best smelling herb ive ever encountered. would be nice to have that taste on a dark plant that wasnt skinny. worth popping a few dozen beans in my book. will prob take me years though. hopefully ill find a decent female out of that five pack to tide me over... lots of beans going in soil soon, not sure when exactly but within 5 days. my 5 bogbubbles and 2 blue sat. are looking ok. two runts in the group... got to pop more seeds...