Everything I Want To Do Is Illegal

soil margin · May 25, 2011

http://www.acresusa.com/toolbox/reprints/Salatin_Sept03.pdf

Really interesting article from a Virginia farmer who attempts to run a sustainable and earth-friendly operation. Thought some of you organic fiends might appreciate this.

Dr_Tre · May 25, 2011

Everything I've ever done, everything I ever do, every place I've ever been, everywhere I'm going to
It's a sin

NPK · May 25, 2011

Same here, but that hasn't stopped me yet.

dragongrower · May 25, 2011

It cant surprise anyone that this is the way the world goes..
But F*ck that, I just do stuff anyways..

187020 · May 25, 2011

Everything I Want To Do Is Illegal

like drugs, gambling, hookers and speeding !! to hell with the haters !!

40AmpstoFreedom · May 25, 2011

Yup big government = everything illegal and the government livin in your bedroom...lovely isn't it? My mom said she wanted to move out in the country the other day to get away from the ever encroaching federal government. I laughed and said, "You live out in the country can't you see that doesn't exist anymore? They either want you as a tax slave to the state, on welfare, or in prison. Welcome to the belief of collectivism over individual liberty for everyone."

We can't even buy the type of fucking milk we want to anymore much less sell it. You'll get raided by swat for that too!

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/28/feds-sting-amish-farmer-selling-raw-milk-locally/

Nanny state rocks yea?

Anyways thanks for posting the article good read, but typical for today's big government mindset college's have been brainwashing everyone with. 4-1/2 years at a university here with a degree in government and the only time I heard the names Hayek or Milton Friedman ever discussed or in a book was my last class needed for graduation lol. Not once was government ever to be cut my entire time in college.

Neuronaut · May 25, 2011

Smoking weed, playing online poker & having sex with 17 year old girls... All illegal. FML

supermanlives · May 25, 2011

its more fun when its illegal. i like listening to judas priest song breaking the law.

SpasticGramps · May 25, 2011

Of course everything is illegal. How else is the Fascist state going to make money subjugating the proletariat? The more ridiculous laws the merrier. It makes for a better institutionalized society.

Don't worry. The central planners love you.

outinit · May 25, 2011

You can't even have a roadside stand to sell veggies and eggs, unless you pay the state. Everything is illegal, that way they can fine you, lock you up, and get PAID!!!!

Gypsy Nirvana · May 25, 2011

'Do Anything You Wanna Do'....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJr2oFN7L2s&feature=related

listen to the lyrics

* just don't get caught......or die of the paranoia....quantify the risk.

oneeyewilly · May 25, 2011

its only illegal if you get caught
ill stand bymy love for weed in all circumstances from sickness to health fom freedom to jail

Bullfrog44 · May 25, 2011

Rules and Laws were meant to be broken.

Stoner4Life · May 25, 2011

Here goes, we don't do it his way and we avoid countless outbreaks of E. coli & mad cow disease. He wants to go from grow to store shelf right there @ his own little crib but he can't so he cries about it instead.

abattoir = slaughterhouse... I won't be churchin' it up for Joels benefit.

would you buy your house where you can see the runway lights of the airport? would you select a home with a slaughterhouse in its backyard? slaughterhouses are FILTHY, smelly and loud.

Joel Salatin said:

Our whole culture suffers from an
industrial food system that has made
every part disconnected from the rest.
Smelly and dirty farms are supposed to be
in one place, away from people, who
snuggle smugly in their cul-de-sacs and
have not a clue about the out-of-sightout-
of-mind atrocities being committed to
their dinner.....

Click to expand...

ummmmm yeah Joel it's been done this way for centuries and for damned good reasons.

I know a bit about cross contamination and the migration of everything from simple dirt/refuse through wicked disease carrying bacteria.

But let's try it Joels way for a moment: as usual Joel strolls from the slaughterhouse facility and into his new market to chat with his son (Jr.) who was earlier helping him clean the shit, piss and blood that a dead animal secretes; they chat and as Jr. is taking notes he drops his pencil on the floor where they both are standing (in the butchering area) and continues on as though nothing's occurred, when done he slips that pencil back into his smock pocket. <----- need I continue? OK, a slaughterhouse is full of dead animals, flies, maggots, ticks, fleas and I don't know how many other small & microbial parasites, I couldn't bear the thought of people going from slaughterhouse to the market & back again.

slaughtering & butchering steaks are two completely different aspects the food chain process takes to go from pasture to plate. here's another process... Grading!

If Joel had it his way he would also do the standard grading because nobody but him knows the care & love his flock received.
How important is grading? The same cut of meat might be "Prime Rib" or just a Rib Roast needing to be cooked slow & long to ever be as tender as "Prime". Sounds good to me, let the farmer decide market price standards for his own beef, I don't friggin' think so.......

our food is good and healthy not because Joels tends a good flock but because we have inspectors to look into EVERY aspect from field to market; or should we now have to train every single inspector to know everything from bovine disease & disorders right through supermarket inspection? can't be done.

poor Joel just can't take 'no' for an answer and wants to play by his own rules, really can't be done nor should it be attempted on a large scale operation like feeding a store & community.

Joel might be good and careful handling a few head of cattle but to do it all yourself invites trouble, soon enough Joel will be pressed for time (or to meet any other demands) and shortcuts will develop.

All that being said personally I buy 80-85% of my beef from a local farmer/rancher, I'm one of the few he sells to, my guy doesn't want to get too busy or open a market like Joel.......

minds_I · May 26, 2011

Hello all,

S4L, I think you missed the import of the story...it is not a health issue, it is a reduction of liberties issue. IMHO.

There is no reason that small scale operations can not be safe and clean.

But there is no option for our farmer is there? He is regulated/restricted from something that is so base to civilization.

Interesting that our governement, when created, was so deeply entrenched in freedoms has slowly been perverted into a regulated socialist entitlement expecting society which has grown reliant upon those that suppress our actions and thoughts.

Well, this is my opinion anyway.

minds_I

supermanlives · May 26, 2011

i grew up on farm food and farmstand food. never had any issues. i suppose i had a natural immunity built up.

Stoner4Life · May 26, 2011

minds_I said:
Hello all,

S4L, I think you missed the import of the story...it is not a health issue, it is a reduction of liberties issue. IMHO.

There is no reason that small scale operations can not be safe and clean.

But there is no option for our farmer is there? He is regulated/restricted from something that is so base to civilization.

Interesting that our governement, when created, was so deeply entrenched in freedoms has slowly been perverted into a regulated socialist entitlement expecting society which has grown reliant upon those that suppress our actions and thoughts.

Well, this is my opinion anyway.

minds_I

yeah he could be the exception to the rule, I'd be tempted to buy from him as a neighbor.

but allow one to do it and all will want to be the grower grocer, it won't be small when every hill billy starts to stomping 'bout his rights to do it too. little farms exist everywhere, beef is 10xs safer than poultry & anyone can do that, hell I'm thinking of raising my own free range chicken, they'll even control the ticks in my yard.......

and he may be exaggerating his loss of liberties as well, if he's zoned for no grocery stores then he knew that when he bought his land. I know of many farms with butcher shop & dairy market on the same property but you can bet the slaughter's done elsewhere.

DiscoBiscuit · May 26, 2011

outinit said:
You can't even have a roadside stand to sell veggies and eggs, unless you pay the state. Everything is illegal, that way they can fine you, lock you up, and get PAID!!!!

Yep if it wasn't for taxes, you couldn't tow your stand to the side of the road w/o a second pickup truck to pull the first one out of the mud hole right outside your driveway. :wave:

40AmpstoFreedom · May 26, 2011

And they can't even get the roads right lol

Sounds like we should have limited them to federal purposes only, like it was intended.

DiscoBiscuit · May 26, 2011

You mean like tanks and shit? Wasn't aware it was intended to be limited.

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