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nebraska "safe haven" law

NOKUY

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been hearing about this for a month or so now...parents dropping off teenagers under a law that was meant for newborns.....heres the artice for those that havent heard about it:


LINCOLN, Neb. – The mother was running out of more than patience when she abandoned her 18-year-old daughter at a hospital over the weekend under Nebraska's safe-haven law. She was also running out of time: She knew that state lawmakers would soon meet in a special session to amend the ill-fated law so that it would apply to newborns only.

"Where am I going to get help if they change the law?" said the mother, who lives in Lincoln and asked to not be identified by name to protect her adopted child.

To the state's surprise and embarrassment, more than half of the 31 children legally abandoned under the safe-haven law since it took effect in mid-July have been teenagers.

But state officials may have inadvertently made things worse with their hesitant response to the problem: The number of drop-offs has almost tripled to about three a week since Gov. Dave Heineman announced on Oct. 29 that lawmakers would rewrite the law.

With legislators set to convene on Friday, weary parents like the Lincoln mother have been racing to drop off their children while they still can.

On Thursday, authorities searched for two teens — a boy and girl, ages 14 and 17 — who fled an Omaha hospital as their mother tried to abandon them. The mother was trying to take them from the car to the emergency room when they took off.

Child welfare experts said the late deluge of drop-offs was probably inevitable. After all, they said, some date had to be picked to begin changing the law.

But some of them said lawmakers and the governor missed chances to change the law early because they underestimated the number of desperate families looking for help. Heineman called the special session only after a spate of five drop-offs in eight days.

Reluctance to pull senators away from their jobs and election campaigns, along with the estimated $70,000 to $80,000 cost of a special session, were among the reasons Heineman's office cited in holding off on calling a special session sooner.

"I think there was a fair amount of denial on the part of legislators that it would snowball," said Karen Authier, executive director of the Nebraska Children's Home Society.

The safe-haven law was intended to save "Dumpster babies" by allowing desperate young mothers to abandon their newborns at a hospital without fear of prosecution. But lawmakers could not agree on an age limit, and the law as passed uses only the word "child."

All states have safe-haven laws, but in every state but Nebraska, the law applies to infants only.

Authier said her group and others had warned senators after the law passed early this year that there could be problems, but the lawmakers did not believe it.

"It wasn't like talking to a stone wall," Authier said. "It was just that people who aren't in the business of dealing with families, they aren't aware how desperate some of these families are."

Sure enough, 18 teenagers — five 17-year-olds, two 16-year-olds, six 15-year-olds, two 14-year-olds, three 13-year-olds — have been abandoned, along with eight children who were 11 or 12. Five of the children dropped off have been from out of state.

The Lincoln mother who dropped off her 18-year-old daughter said she was repeatedly turned down when she sought help from police, state social services authorities and the girl's school. The woman said her daughter had been diagnosed with a mental illness when she was 12 and had deep psychological scars from childhood abuse and from being left alone with her dead biological mother for a week.

The woman said she felt she had no choice but to leave her daughter at the hospital after a recent flurry of assault, stealing, sleeping around and cutting school.

"I thought she would get help" through the safe-haven law, the mother said.

However, state authorities refused to take the young woman into custody, saying Nebraska law regarding juveniles does not let authorities take in anyone older than 17. The woman left with her daughter.

Fourteen children in all have been left at three hospitals operated by Alegent Health in the Omaha area.

"These are largely families at a point of incredible desperation," said Wayne Sensor, chief executive of Alegent Health. "They aren't bad parents or bad kids. They simply don't know what services are available out there."
 

zingablack

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Damn!


S4L is on top of it. hahahaha.

but really, thats crazy i thought this was a great law but i think they def. need to specify infants. i also think the gov't should help people that really need it a lot more than they currently do.
 
Can you imagine how fucking scarred you'd be if your parents did that?

I wonder what would be worse... Knowing you're not wanted, or being abandoned...

At least if you're dropped off, you have the (very very slight for teenagers) possibility of getting adopted, and knowing that even if your birth parents don't want you, SOMEONE wants you...

And the woman with the 18 year old daughter.... Who the fuck told her to adopt Dexter's sister? Seriously, if she wasn't prepared to deal with a LOT of emotional baggage, why adopt such a scarred kid? That woman shouldn't have adopted if she wasn't willing to take on the responsibility...
 

Feyd

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A comic I watched made a good point tonight, albeit in an effort to get a laugh. He said, adopted kids have issues with the fact that they are adopted, they think that they are unwanted children. Well, I think a huge number of kids are fucking accidents. You don't want to have an accident, you can't expect it. At least when you're adopted you know that someone wanted to have you as their child.
 

Feyd

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Nice! That guy was pretty decent. Ross was pretty good too, I didn't expect it due to his piss poor material he did at his last stunt as a roaster.
 
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DogBoy

You think yummy has parents?

I heard he was created in a test tube to serve as a warning to others.
 

NOKUY

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i bet that there are a fair share of "false alarms" following behind cars approaching fire stations and hospitals.

mom or dad flips on the turn signal 100 feet before the turn..."you act up again and im gonna drop ya off"...lol

....kid usually prolly responds w/ "do you promise"?
 

subrob

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its a weird situation they got out there for sure. but i have a question: how the f do you "abandon" an 18 year old? its called kickin em out the nest! and what 18 year old would sit there and be processed through? i would think it was a good excuse to go smoke behind the roller rink, drink some wine coolers and get my 16 year old girlfriend pregnant in the backseat of my buddies dads car!
 

Feyd

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My mom used to tell me I was adopted. My dad told me they found me with my head stuck in a fence. I of course knew they were joking, but I had a sneaking suspicion I might have been adopted, maybe I was paranoid about everything. But I wasn't.

I used to extremely gullible, because my dad was an amazing liar. I have these marks on the back of my legs, not really marks but there are two lines on my calves where no hair grows, and it stands out if you look at them. The story is that the baby booties put on me were too small, and they quickly cut off circulation to my feet, but there was no way of knowing until they were taken off. 21 years late the skin where my ankles were is apparently halfway up my leg. My mom said she had never felt worse in her life. My dad had me convinced when I was 13 that my mom had whipped me with wires, and that was the result.

Parents are fucked up sometimes. But I love mine, I wouldn't change them for different ones.
 

gramsci.antonio

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Trying-to-blend said:
And the woman with the 18 year old daughter.... Who the fuck told her to adopt Dexter's sister? Seriously, if she wasn't prepared to deal with a LOT of emotional baggage, why adopt such a scarred kid? That woman shouldn't have adopted if she wasn't willing to take on the responsibility...


it's just so fucking easy to say it while being comfortable behind a PC monitor.

Try to get involved in some serious volunteering if you're so tough... like paramedic or social service for mental disabled people....
 

Feyd

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I commend the woman for sticking it out until the girl was 18, I think she took on a lot of responsibility
 
gramsci.antonio said:
it's just so fucking easy to say it while being comfortable behind a PC monitor.

Try to get involved in some serious volunteering if you're so tough... like paramedic or social service for mental disabled people....


i used to take care of quadraplegics as part of a community service program...

I CHOSE that assignment... met a lot of cool people that unfortunately have been abandoned by everyone else. I still remember this one guy that had proposed to his girlfriend not a week before breaking his neck... She dumped him within a month... That's really sad, and it made hiim into an asshole most of the time. really bitter and shit. He was constantly on suicide watch. One of my proudest moments ever was setting up a computer with a lil joystick in his mouth so he could at least chat with women and look at porn, even if he couldn't jack off(and that is literally what he did all day).

I also take care of my alzheimer's patient grandfather and have had to deal with a psychotic mother that is in and out of hospitals all the time....

There's a reason i'm pissed off at the woman... I understand taking responsibility over someone else's life is NOT something you can turn your back on later... I hate the fact that i can't leave my immediate area because of my family situation, but i still won't just abandon them...

edit: i should add, that due to my family history of mental ailments, i chose a long time ago to adopt whenever i was ready for a child. I'd never give up a kid that was already abandoned once....
 
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gramsci.antonio

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Trying-to-blend said:
i used to take care of quadraplegics as part of a community service program...

on the internet everybody is a fucking superman who has done anything and have been everywhere.


Man i don't fucking buy your story, just because if it were true you would have known the meaning of the word compassion: the capability of partecipate with the sufference of someone else. And from your first post is obvious that no, you do know no compassion nor you have been desperate enough to act against the human nature.


Said that, i want you to know that i have the max respect for everybody, and i don't want to start a fight. The post above is just a personal opinion, and by no means i'm saying it's the truth.
 
compassion for whom?

The woman who KNOWINGLY adopted a troubled child? I mean... if she didn't know the girl had been left with her dead mother and had been abused, sure, maybe I could empathize with her decision to attempt to abandon her.

But she KNEW what she was getting into... If you're going to do something, look deep and hard inside you before doing it, PERIOD.

Or compassion for the girl that just knows that no one in the world wants her around?

And as for you not believing my story, well, whatever. I won't say i wasn't tempted to quit when it came time to clear bedpans and wipe asses, but, like i said, i believe if you commit to something, you see it through, period...

Guess the next logical step is to feel compassion for rats... i mean, you can't understand how desperate they must be...

That said, I want you to know I'm a disillusioned idealist and that i think everyone is worth crap, i'll gladly start a fight. The post above is fact, and is by all means the truth.

PS: i do hope you understand the last two lil paragraphs above are me being "sarcastic"...
 

flubnutz

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there are a lot of troubled young people out there, and with tough times, veterans of war, unemployment, damaged families and stress it wont get better. to neglect it is to risk a generation of potential lost, neglect that will pay back in cynisism, destruction and lives. i dont know what the solution is, but you can see the problem comin ...
 

RudolfTheRed

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dropping off a 17 year old kid off at a hospital because you don't want him is better than say, throwing there shit outside the house and telling them to go away. which believe it or not still happens in this country. My road dog when I used to travel was homeless at 16. By the time I had met him he had been on his own for almost 10 years. Only life he knew was the streets and that's why he's still there today.
and in fact, there is actually a good amount of homeless kids out there that are 15, 16, 17, and 18 years old. been there, and seen it.
 
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