StickyHands
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Hi All,
Im really confused on this, and hoping its something i overlooked and really simple. Been out the game for a few years now, so maybe I forgot or have no knowledge on something that can cause this.
Ive had a few strains which have been around in our circle for a few years now. Recently, I was unwell, and could not grow.
I am now completing my first run in a few years, and something has changed. The donor plants were not in the best condition (skinny 5ft plants), so I took cuts, nursed the cuts to health, then flowered them.
The donor plants have not been flowered in at least 2-3 years, so they basically lived in veg for a few years whilst I was unwell.
The ladies are not emitting their usual smell, and some of the shape characteristics of the bud have changed too.
One lady, which smelled of pure lemons has now gone , replaced with a generic smell, that doesnt have any lemon edge to it.
Trichome levels seems to have taken a drastic turn, and seems like hardly any trichome production.
Factors I changed, that could have direct influence:
1/ Nutes. I used really old nutes. I mean like 3+years old...lol
Being unwell, I didnt know if I would be well enough to complete the grow, so I just used the old nutes I had. During Veg, and flower, no tip burn, and seemed to work ok as plants grew normally as far as I could see. Only at week 8 flower have i got a touch of tip burn, but that was at my highest ec feed of 1.65ec , which is their last feed, so water only for next two weeks.
2/ The only new thing I added to my growing way was the addition of beneficial bacteria and also that tricoderma stuff (in veg only).The cuts seemed to love the addition of both, shooting really thick healthy fuzzy white roots, which I havent seen for some time.
So I took clones of donor plants, and once flowered, the plants smell different, and all the plants seem to have a more generic look about them, whereas before , each strain had its own more defined characteristics making each easily recognizable. Hope that makes sense, lol
here is some pics
clones were taken from plants on right. THey were 5ft tall and sickly looking. So i chopped them down and got cuts from them.
In veg, the clones seemed to be happy and thriving . Lovely root growth, and above soil growth daily.
In flower, less trichomes on plants, and rubbing any of the plants seem to release a really diluted version of their original smell. Its more a generic smell, rather than strain dependant smell, if that makes sense lol
What can cause such a drastic change in the smell and overall characteristics of the clone? Im growing in the same environment as I used to use. RH and temps have been monitored, and kept in normal ranges. Nothing strange there imo. Only thing I can think of, is maybe the 3+years old nutes. The reason I thought the nutes were ok is when they started getting it, they seemed to respond positively, with no signs of any major deficiencies.
Perhaps the smell will return once dried and cured?
I dont mind this crop not being what I thought it would be. I'm just happy to be able to grow again. Now I want to work out if its worth trying another run of these cuts, or if its time to move on, and start by seed again.
Thanks for your time and thanks for reading my post.
Any input is appreciated. Positive or negative, any help appreciated.
Have a great day!
Im really confused on this, and hoping its something i overlooked and really simple. Been out the game for a few years now, so maybe I forgot or have no knowledge on something that can cause this.
Ive had a few strains which have been around in our circle for a few years now. Recently, I was unwell, and could not grow.
I am now completing my first run in a few years, and something has changed. The donor plants were not in the best condition (skinny 5ft plants), so I took cuts, nursed the cuts to health, then flowered them.
The donor plants have not been flowered in at least 2-3 years, so they basically lived in veg for a few years whilst I was unwell.
The ladies are not emitting their usual smell, and some of the shape characteristics of the bud have changed too.
One lady, which smelled of pure lemons has now gone , replaced with a generic smell, that doesnt have any lemon edge to it.
Trichome levels seems to have taken a drastic turn, and seems like hardly any trichome production.
Factors I changed, that could have direct influence:
1/ Nutes. I used really old nutes. I mean like 3+years old...lol
Being unwell, I didnt know if I would be well enough to complete the grow, so I just used the old nutes I had. During Veg, and flower, no tip burn, and seemed to work ok as plants grew normally as far as I could see. Only at week 8 flower have i got a touch of tip burn, but that was at my highest ec feed of 1.65ec , which is their last feed, so water only for next two weeks.
2/ The only new thing I added to my growing way was the addition of beneficial bacteria and also that tricoderma stuff (in veg only).The cuts seemed to love the addition of both, shooting really thick healthy fuzzy white roots, which I havent seen for some time.
So I took clones of donor plants, and once flowered, the plants smell different, and all the plants seem to have a more generic look about them, whereas before , each strain had its own more defined characteristics making each easily recognizable. Hope that makes sense, lol
here is some pics
clones were taken from plants on right. THey were 5ft tall and sickly looking. So i chopped them down and got cuts from them.
In veg, the clones seemed to be happy and thriving . Lovely root growth, and above soil growth daily.
In flower, less trichomes on plants, and rubbing any of the plants seem to release a really diluted version of their original smell. Its more a generic smell, rather than strain dependant smell, if that makes sense lol
What can cause such a drastic change in the smell and overall characteristics of the clone? Im growing in the same environment as I used to use. RH and temps have been monitored, and kept in normal ranges. Nothing strange there imo. Only thing I can think of, is maybe the 3+years old nutes. The reason I thought the nutes were ok is when they started getting it, they seemed to respond positively, with no signs of any major deficiencies.
Perhaps the smell will return once dried and cured?
I dont mind this crop not being what I thought it would be. I'm just happy to be able to grow again. Now I want to work out if its worth trying another run of these cuts, or if its time to move on, and start by seed again.
Thanks for your time and thanks for reading my post.
Any input is appreciated. Positive or negative, any help appreciated.
Have a great day!
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