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A Majority Of Florida Voters Support Legalizing Recreational Marijuana

dddaver

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Sorry. Bad day. My back has been aching all day in this crappy humid weather here. Idiots like those two jack-asses really just really bug me too. And then I also noticed it was your first post on ICMag and I just ass-u-me-d you were likely just another political nut trying to get my vote and kinda went off. Sorry about that. They do frown on soley political talk here, as per TOU. Check it out and welcome.
 

Hydropimp

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Vote demo or repo

it doesn't matter who you vote for in the long run it is all under the same agenda.

1% controls everything

99% all of us who don't rack in billons left to starve and pick up the crumbs left over if any.

We are all slaves weather you believe it or not. Just wait and you will see.

Rich and poor will be all on the same level.

NWO is already here and waiting to sink there teeth in.

off topic but i know i am not the only one who sees this. Shit will get worst and more war to come. then they will take our guns and what you think is your liberty.
 

dddaver

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Saw this coming, the first anti-Amd 2 commercial today. Deep foreboding voice instills heart wrenching fear, "VOTE NO on Amd 2".

I'm pretty sure if anyone were too count, there are way more negative political ads than any that say what a candidate is for. :moon:

Coincidentally, my absentee ballot came in the mail today. Amd 2 has strange wording, is not the actual bill just a kind of a description of it. Mostly it just says the doctors can prescribe it but they have no clue what happens then. Very vague. I always wonder who writes that strange shit they put on the ballots here.
 

Jhhnn

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Saw this coming, the first anti-Amd 2 commercial today. Deep foreboding voice instills heart wrenching fear, "VOTE NO on Amd 2".

I'm pretty sure if anyone were too count, there are way more negative political ads than any that say what a candidate is for. :moon:

Coincidentally, my absentee ballot came in the mail today. Amd 2 has strange wording, is not the actual bill just a kind of a description of it. Mostly it just says the doctors can prescribe it but they have no clue what happens then. Very vague. I always wonder who writes that strange shit they put on the ballots here.

It's Florida. It's kinda like Texas. You probably knew that.
 

dddaver

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I think I should have not asked you that question.:thinking:

Just so you know, the LPF (Libertarian Party of Florida) is the third largest political party in Florida and has guber. candidates on the ballot listed directly under DEM or REP. When I first registered to vote 40 years ago (Wow! I'm freaking OLD, when did that happen?) in NYS I registered Libertarian. I am now registered NoPartyAffiliation. But INMHO, ANY vote not REP or DEM is NOT a wasted vote at all. High numbers, if nothing else, DO garner attention. :tiphat:
 

RetroGrow

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Last night on the local news, they announced that support was "waning".
They showed a guy standing outside Walmart or some big store handing out pamphlets and trying to engage people. Problem was, the guy was really freaky, hippie looking with long beard and 60s clothing. I don't think that image is going to go over well with some folks. Just reinforces stereotypes. Plus, the guy looked plenty buzzed.....
It's Florida.....the people here are morons for the most part. I was talking to a couple, one who was smoking a blunt, and his girlfriend announced that she was against it, because she was a drug counselor, and it would "hurt" her business. I tried to explain to her that we are talking about medical cannabis. I explained about strains high in CBD, and with little or no THC, "the part that gets you high". Here you have a drug counselor whose boyfriend is a head, yet she is clueless. Didn't even know there was an election. You just can't fix stupid.
 

Jellyfish

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Maybe if you look at this nationally, Florida is being set up as the first state to vote NO to legalization since forever. That might encourage other conservative states to vote NO, and end up being a real setback for national legalization.

I know, I'm Debbie Downer, but I really hope legalization goes through in FLA. Stoned is the only way to enjoy EPCOT, and even then it's dodgy at best.
 

iBogart

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Florida is rigged like another poster said, even more so now that outside money can be spent on local elections. Take that snake Sheldon Adelson, that casino mogel. Dude donated like 2 million dollars to a vote no on 2 campaign, and the fuck is from Nevada! He knows marijuana is bad for the casino business. Stoners make horrible gamblers. Now we got these damn commercials for vote no on 2 every 5 minutes it seems.

I'll shit a brick if this thing passes.

We should just lay all our cards on the table a put together a full legalization initiative with home growing allowed. Just a hail mary pass for what we all really want.
 

RetroGrow

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Maybe if you look at this nationally, Florida is being set up as the first state to vote NO to legalization since forever. That might encourage other conservative states to vote NO, and end up being a real setback for national legalization.

I know, I'm Debbie Downer, but I really hope legalization goes through in FLA. Stoned is the only way to enjoy EPCOT, and even then it's dodgy at best.

Yup. This whole thing was setup to placate the "Charlotte's Web" people. Even Rick Scott supported Charlotte's Web, as if that were the holy grail strain. They couldn't very well deny small children suffering from seizures. But, between the 60% requirement, and the relentless ads paid for by big pharma, big alcohol, and big gambling, they are once again demonizing cannabis. It's Reefer Madness all over again, and the populace here is just dumb enough to fall for it. This bill was designed to fail, and in talking to people, most of them don't even know there's an election. Seriously. What the forces of evil are trying to do here is simply disgusting. I do not see it passing at all, but hope I am mistaken.
 

SoSour

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This amendment was authored by people hired by John Morgan, a slug of a fucking drunk nitwit, who I have personally defeated in court on 3 occasions. He is a corrupt piece of shit, who has the next likely governor in his pocket. This new legislation is FOR THE RICH, BY THE RICH.

This isn't a step in any direction except to put more money in the pockets of the corporate elite. Nobody who needs or wants to smoke marijuana has a problem obtaining it now.

This is a constitutional amendment, it will NOT be changed. The legislative frame work that has already been authored by the Health Department is incredibly restrictive, and bars any entry hope for anyone except the rich.

You fools are having the wool pulled over your eyes so you can legally continue to do something you are already doing anyway, that you really have no problem doing in the first place. Great job!

NO ON 2. NO TO CORPORATE ASSHOLES RUINING FLORIDA. NO ON 2!!!!
 

Morcheeba*

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This amendment was authored by people hired by John Morgan, a slug of a fucking drunk nitwit, who I have personally defeated in court on 3 occasions...This is a constitutional amendment, it will NOT be changed. The legislative frame work that has already been authored by the Health Department is incredibly restrictive, and bars any entry hope for anyone except the rich...

the legislative frame work is for sb1030 and it is restrictive. as for the few lucky farms licensed to cultivate/dispense cannabis under sb1030 good luck.

i hope you are not confusing sb1030 with Amendment 2 or implying the same rules/laws will apply to both if Amendment 2 passes.

YES ON 2

NO ON PROPAGANDA


peace
 

BoomerGuy

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RetroGrow, here is a fun t-shirt logo for you.... RUGER, the only known cure for stupid..... Feel free to use that. ;) Hydropimp you nailed it. The republicans will throw the baby out with the bath water and the democrats will let if get cold and drown. Either way the baby is dead. I liken it to the Ford Chevy debate, both vehicles will drive you to hell but now you are in hell. What is wrong with common sense regardless of party? In recent history big business loves democrats more than republicans, just look at the stock market history. Does that matter? Heck no. The military industrial complex runs the show and they know they can get what they want by changing the verbage and pitting us against one another with cool titles like democrats, republicans, blacks, whites, immigrants, Americans, Russians and the list goes on forever.
We need to as a people stop being idiots. If you are going to campaign for legal pot please cut your dregs, take a bath and DO NOT be stoned while you are asking for support. Basic common sense...... This debate for many republicans is like cultural christianity, they have to publically say they are against it even if the truth is totally different. Let's just accept people are blinded by rhetoric and move on. Now.... Why not use a little history to our advantage? Who knows how we were able to finally reverse prohibition in the 30's? The folks for legalizing booze finally accepted that polarizing the masses with an in your face approach was killing their cause. Once they used the approach that people need to figure out the right and wrong on their own and that legislating morality was doomed AND focused on the MUCH needed jobs, revenues and taxes that would help stimulate a crippled US economy at the time they suddenly succeeded. The US economy is crippled right now. Let's use the money approach, conservatives just need a reason to compromise so they can sooth their already waning opposition. Oh and BTW I am registered republican that has never voted a straight ticket, supports Ron and Rand Paul, has a terminal muscle disease that pot helps tremendously, acknowledges J.C as my personal savior, reads the bible and can find NOTHING in it that says MJ is bad or evil, quite the contrary in fact, the bible in context actually supports using plants to help mankind. That is another debate though entirely....... :) Many thanks to those that took the time to read my rant in it's entirety. The cliff notes are this, republicans and democrats are just titles used to keep us from thinking for ourselves. "JUST THINK" should be the slogan for legalizing pot.
 

RetroGrow

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acknowledges J.C as my personal savior, reads the bible and can find NOTHING in it that says MJ is bad or evil, quite the contrary in fact, the bible in context actually supports using plants to help mankind. That is another debate though entirely....... :) Many thanks to those that took the time to read my rant in it's entirety. The cliff notes are this, republicans and democrats are just titles used to keep us from thinking for ourselves. "JUST THINK" should be the slogan for legalizing pot.

If you were thinking for yourself, you wouldn't be a bible thumper, and accept the fiction/superstition that "JC" even knows you exist, as he is dead. The only way someone could believe something so nonsensical, is if it were driven into their heads since birth, by someone else who had it driven into their heads. There is no way a rational human being could wake up one day on this earth and come up with that mythology on his own. "I don't understand a lot of what is going on, so there must be an invisible,reclusive creature that does." I can't think of anything more absurd, or less scientific.
As Carl Sagan said:
""You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe." Amen.
 
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