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Old 07-18-2017, 12:16 AM #21
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The one on the right is fine, for sure.

IDK, it could be possible that during cutting and cloning and repotting it suffered some minor injury when it was weak and it picked up a virus.

Grow it out, and burn it in a pipe to sanitize.

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The new growth looks pretty good, so maybe it'll finish OK.
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Old 07-18-2017, 01:32 AM #22
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pH up and down will be found in the pool sections of most stores.

Next time you grow, you can test the soil and amend it before sowing.
FWIW, a lot of strains are more tolerant than others for pH and nutes.

You'll get it sorted... and one day you'll have a list of strains that you love which are a joy to grow. Your experience will grow as well... and I have no doubt that you're gonna do very well.

Cheers mate!
Please don't use pool products on your plants. They do change pH but are not plant foods.

Plant pH down is phosphoric acid. Plants use phosphorus
Pool pH down Is Muratic acid plants cannot uptake it so it contributes to salt buildup.

Plant pH up is Potassium carbonate. Again plant metabolize the potassium.
Pool pH up is Sodium Bicarbonate. It forms NaOH (sodium hydroxide)
which is toxic to plants.

If you're broke use citric acid and baking soda. Less sodium in the soda.
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Old 07-18-2017, 02:35 AM #23
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Please don't use pool products on your plants. They do change pH but are not plant foods.

Plant pH down is phosphoric acid. Plants use phosphorus
Pool pH down Is Muratic acid plants cannot uptake it so it contributes to salt buildup.

Plant pH up is Potassium carbonate. Again plant metabolize the potassium.
Pool pH up is Sodium Bicarbonate. It forms NaOH (sodium hydroxide)
which is toxic to plants.

If you're broke use citric acid and baking soda. Less sodium in the soda.
Good info. WTH was I thinking?
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Old 07-18-2017, 02:49 AM #24
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Yep yep, all in all even the one that is not doing great is still putting on a little bit of new healthy growth. I get my soil pH meter tomorrow so I'll update with my findings from that.

I know it depends on the strain of the plant, and the medium used but how often do you all water, and water with nutes for for your plants in order to keep them moist but also give the roots a chance to get some air?

Mushroombrew thanks for the very insightful info on the dangers of pool pH products vs plant pH products. I have ones for plants but I could see purchasing pool ones at a later date if you had not explained it.
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The pH of the soil was about 7.5 so I just put in some water, and root drench with a pH of 6.3, and also pruned some of the lower nodes off.
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Nice. They should bounce back pretty quick with the pH corrected.
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The pH of the soil was about 7.5 so I just put in some water, and root drench with a pH of 6.3, and also pruned some of the lower nodes off.
Wow, off enough to make a difference.

Neutral water... must have been something in the soil from the get go.

Good thread, good info in here. Keep us posted!
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Excess Nitrogen + excess rooting hormones (IBA, NAA, IAA)- you either added something for rooting or you added something that was high in tryptophan and the Bacillus converted it to IAA and related auxins.

The Ph of your water is irrelevant in most cases. If your media is too acid, add nitrate N. If its too basic add urea or ammonia N instead of nitrate n. Soil Ph of 7.5 indicates you should use almost all N as urea or ammonia- you must have dolomite/calcium carbonate as a prominent feature in your media or you are using very high nitrate N ferts.
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Excess Nitrogen + excess rooting hormones (IBA, NAA, IAA)- you either added something for rooting or you added something that was high in tryptophan and the Bacillus converted it to IAA and related auxins.

The Ph of your water is irrelevant in most cases. If your media is too acid, add nitrate N. If its too basic add urea or ammonia N instead of nitrate n. Soil Ph of 7.5 indicates you should use almost all N as urea or ammonia- you must have dolomite/calcium carbonate as a prominent feature in your media or you are using very high nitrate N ferts.
What about topdressing with fresh chicken shit? Too hot?
Not a lot mind you, just a ring around the stalk.

I've got laying hens that are little poop factories, but I usually addit to my compost pile and turn it a few times before winter for use the following Spring.
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Excess Nitrogen + excess rooting hormones (IBA, NAA, IAA)- you either added something for rooting or you added something that was high in tryptophan and the Bacillus converted it to IAA and related auxins.

The Ph of your water is irrelevant in most cases. If your media is too acid, add nitrate N. If its too basic add urea or ammonia N instead of nitrate n. Soil Ph of 7.5 indicates you should use almost all N as urea or ammonia- you must have dolomite/calcium carbonate as a prominent feature in your media or you are using very high nitrate N ferts.
I think it's the excessive lvs of nitrogen, I have geven the plants nitrogen dense root drench for a while now. Besides doing a flush how do I remedy this?
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