165 dollars a liter for Advanced Nutrients Piranha Liquid 1L

CannabisDog · Feb 13, 2011

What's in this stuff that could warrant paying 165 dollars for a liter of this stuff? I use AN and the stuff I use works fine. But I mean really what is this stuff going to do for 165 dollars?

If you add in Voodoo Juice your looking at 265 dollars for two products. I just don't see how much better it could make my plants for the high cost.

Anyone else know? :tumbleweed:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Advanced-Nutrien...530?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2560cedc6a

Sandnut · Feb 13, 2011

lol, and people whine about the price of gas!!

gonzo` · Feb 13, 2011

this is too funny! what's the application rate?

CannabisDog · Feb 13, 2011

Not sure but if it is 2ml per liter like most of there other products it would add up in a hurry.

springer20 · Feb 13, 2011

That price is ridiculous dude :-(

Clackamas Coot · Feb 13, 2011

I just hope that they take Visa so that I can round out my collection of AN products! Nothing good ol' sloppy-seconds 'Wet Betty' eh?

CC

CaptainTrips · Feb 13, 2011

Extracting oil out of a snake is an expensive process.

303hydro · Feb 14, 2011

Man, advanced is garbage.

This product is basically some rooting mycohorrizhae and tricos. Its a great product to use for your root zone,especially if you are in soil. But don't buy that B.S. for $165!!

IMO the best of the best is the Great White Shark from Plant Success. I am pretty sure they wholesale all the microbes to everyone else in the industry.

This is the label.

APPLICATION METHODS
Soil and Potted Plants
SOLUTION - Mix 1 scoop (1 tsp) per 2 gallons of water.
Hydroponic Application
*repeat process every 2-3 weeks for optimal results
**ONE SCOOP EQUALS 1 TEASPOON
*Can be applied using SOLUTION mix below
**Can be applied directly to growing media
Contains 269,786 CFU’s Per CC of
each of the following 11 species:
Bacillus subtillus
Bacillus licheniformis
Bacillus azotoformanas
Bacillus megaterium
Bacillus coagulans
Bacillus pumlis
Paenibacillus polymyxa
Streptomyces griseues
Streptomyces lydicus
Psuedomonas aureofaceans
Psuedomonas florescence
Trichoderma konigii-93,750 spores per cc
Trichoderma harzianum-93,750 spores per cc
99.9% inert ingredients
©2010 Plant Revolution Inc.
Information regarding the contents and levels of metals in this product
is available on the internet at http://www.aapfco.org/metals.htm
Contains carefully selected mycorrhizal fungus well suited to a variety of soils,
climates and plants. In nature, these fungi build a microbial system in and on
plant roots which greatly enhance plant growth and vigor.
CONTAINS NON-PLANT FOOD INGREDIENTS:
Mycorrhiza (131,474 of viable organisms per cc)
Ectomycorrhiza/cc
Pisolithus tinctorious - 112,500 spores per cc
Rhizopogon luteolus - 3,125 spores per cc
Rhizopogon fulvigleba - 3,125 spores per cc
Rhizopogon villosullus - 3,125 spores per cc
Rhizopogon amylopogon - 3,125 spores per cc
Scleroderma citrinum - 3,125 spores per cc
Scleroderma cepa - 3,125 spores per cc
Endomycorrhiza/cc
Glomus aggregatum - 50 spores per cc
Glomus intraradices - 50 spores per cc
Glomus mosseae - 50 spores per cc
Glomus etunicatum - 50 spores per cc
Glomus clarum - 6 spores per cc
Glomus monosporum - 6 spores per cc
Glomus brazilianum - 6 spores per cc
Glomus margarita - 6 spores per cc
Beneficial Bacteria & Trichoderma

If you just wanna try it, its like $40 for 4oz of the dry, which last forever for most people.

If you want a liquid form that has some extra plant food, foxfarm came out with a kangaroots and a microbrew that are only $20 per liter. I would definitely try the combo of those before I pay $165 to A.N.

mrktwiz · Feb 14, 2011

CaptainTrips said:
Extracting oil out of a snake is an expensive process.

Captain....bwahahah so true....thats why when I found the K.I.S.S. thread in Nutrients area I totally changed and went simple and cheap and I have NEVER been sorry with my YIELDS or POTENCY yet....christ what was it that P. T. Barnum said, "there's a sucker born every minute". I spent 10 years in high tech marketing and we schlepped the craziest and sometimes lousiest software/hardware etc due to "fancy marketing slicks" etc...

Keep it simple SO much easier on the pocketbook, I am constantly amazed how little MJ truly needs to be good.

just my .02 cents....

Rednick · Feb 14, 2011

Fuck AN and Big Mike!

Bud Bug · Feb 14, 2011

Benefox http://www.dominionorganics.com/html/products.html Its cheap and it works.

TheBioMaster · Feb 14, 2011

Wow, there are so many alternatives and so many BETTER products out there. It is amazing to me that ANYONE buys any of the nonsense AN is peddling.....I do not get how they are still in business. What a "joke" product from a "joke" company.

ZZTops · Feb 14, 2011

Wow... $180.00 for a pack of seeds, $165.00 a liter for additives...

Some people think they can buy a good grow...

In reality all it takes is Love and a K.I.S.S... :tiphat:

danimarie193 · Feb 14, 2011

You guys can hate all you want but AN has the best products on the market. Have you guys tryed there stuff or are you just hating becuase it cost alot? It only took one product to make me switch to there hole line up. The bottle was also given to me at my local hydro store. New store did not carry Bloombastic and I was given a liter of Big Bud to replace it. Big Bud did more for me in 2 weeks then Bloombastic did in 6.

Snagglepuss · Feb 14, 2011

303hydro said:
Man, advanced is garbage.

This product is basically some rooting mycohorrizhae and tricos. Its a great product to use for your root zone,especially if you are in soil. But don't buy that B.S. for $165!!

IMO the best of the best is the Great White Shark from Plant Success. I am pretty sure they wholesale all the microbes to everyone else in the industry.

This is the label.

APPLICATION METHODS
Soil and Potted Plants
SOLUTION - Mix 1 scoop (1 tsp) per 2 gallons of water.
Hydroponic Application
*repeat process every 2-3 weeks for optimal results
**ONE SCOOP EQUALS 1 TEASPOON
*Can be applied using SOLUTION mix below
**Can be applied directly to growing media
Contains 269,786 CFU’s Per CC of
each of the following 11 species:
Bacillus subtillus
Bacillus licheniformis
Bacillus azotoformanas
Bacillus megaterium
Bacillus coagulans
Bacillus pumlis
Paenibacillus polymyxa
Streptomyces griseues
Streptomyces lydicus
Psuedomonas aureofaceans
Psuedomonas florescence
Trichoderma konigii-93,750 spores per cc
Trichoderma harzianum-93,750 spores per cc
99.9% inert ingredients
©2010 Plant Revolution Inc.
Information regarding the contents and levels of metals in this product
is available on the internet at http://www.aapfco.org/metals.htm
Contains carefully selected mycorrhizal fungus well suited to a variety of soils,
climates and plants. In nature, these fungi build a microbial system in and on
plant roots which greatly enhance plant growth and vigor.
CONTAINS NON-PLANT FOOD INGREDIENTS:
Mycorrhiza (131,474 of viable organisms per cc)
Ectomycorrhiza/cc
Pisolithus tinctorious - 112,500 spores per cc
Rhizopogon luteolus - 3,125 spores per cc
Rhizopogon fulvigleba - 3,125 spores per cc
Rhizopogon villosullus - 3,125 spores per cc
Rhizopogon amylopogon - 3,125 spores per cc
Scleroderma citrinum - 3,125 spores per cc
Scleroderma cepa - 3,125 spores per cc
Endomycorrhiza/cc
Glomus aggregatum - 50 spores per cc
Glomus intraradices - 50 spores per cc
Glomus mosseae - 50 spores per cc
Glomus etunicatum - 50 spores per cc
Glomus clarum - 6 spores per cc
Glomus monosporum - 6 spores per cc
Glomus brazilianum - 6 spores per cc
Glomus margarita - 6 spores per cc
Beneficial Bacteria & Trichoderma

If you just wanna try it, its like $40 for 4oz of the dry, which last forever for most people.

If you want a liquid form that has some extra plant food, foxfarm came out with a kangaroots and a microbrew that are only $20 per liter. I would definitely try the combo of those before I pay $165 to A.N.

I was told by hydro store guy that these 2 products are nearly identical,and he recommended the great white cause its a fraction of the price,,maby ill try it soon......

303hydro · Feb 14, 2011

danimarie193 said:
You guys can hate all you want but AN has the best products on the market. Have you guys tryed there stuff or are you just hating becuase it cost alot? It only took one product to make me switch to there hole line up. The bottle was also given to me at my local hydro store. New store did not carry Bloombastic and I was given a liter of Big Bud to replace it. Big Bud did more for me in 2 weeks then Bloombastic did in 6.

No. Its not that we are haters.

Its just the fact that there are superior products available for a fraction of the cost.

I am not saying it doesn't work, but to quote Rez and sum it up in one sentence:

"
AN sucks.
Anything "you" can do with $1000 worth of AN,I can do better,and with only $125.00 worth of GenHydro nutes. Easily.

Oh,and my herb will stay lit and burn clean,unlike any AN-grown herb I've ever smoked.

"

F_T_P! · Feb 14, 2011

danimarie193 said:
You guys can hate all you want but AN has the best products on the market. Have you guys tryed there stuff or are you just hating becuase it cost alot? It only took one product to make me switch to there hole line up. The bottle was also given to me at my local hydro store. New store did not carry Bloombastic and I was given a liter of Big Bud to replace it. Big Bud did more for me in 2 weeks then Bloombastic did in 6.

Your favorite does not equal best. lol :laughing:

AN works, but no better than any other hydro store nutrient company. With AN you are paying for the image their marketing team has created, which is funny IMO.

CannabisDog · Feb 14, 2011

ha ha ha

ha ha ha

danimarie193 said:
You guys can hate all you want but AN has the best products on the market. Have you guys tryed there stuff or are you just hating becuase it cost alot? It only took one product to make me switch to there hole line up. The bottle was also given to me at my local hydro store. New store did not carry Bloombastic and I was given a liter of Big Bud to replace it. Big Bud did more for me in 2 weeks then Bloombastic did in 6.

Hey danimarie! I have a 1989 Ford Pinto for sale! 65,000 dollars. You can make it out in bank draft please. It works like a Ferrari and has the suspension of a Dodge Viper. Don't hate on it either, because you haven't driven it. lol :moon:

tester · Feb 14, 2011

An other interesting thing is the difference between the liquid and the powder form of Piranha.

There are huge differences, species are missing...

There was also an older Piranha with 2 times more species, even though some of these were completely useless for cannabis.

Gigaspora margarita
Glomus aggregatum
Glomus brasilianum
Glomus clarum
Glomus deserticola
Glomus intraradices
Glomus monosporum
Glomus mosseae
Laccaria bicolor
Laccaria laccata
Pisolithus tinctorius
Rhizopogon amylopogon
Rhizopogon fulvigleba
Rhizopogon luteolus
Rhizopogon villosullus
Scleroderma Cepa
Scleroderma citrinum
Trichoderma flavouirens
Trichoderma harzianum
Trichoderma imbricatum
Trichoderma koningii
Trichoderma pardinum
Trichoderma polysporum
Trichoderma viride
Trichoderma zelleni

How come that all three of them are the best one can get if they are all different?
Same question arises with AN's nutrient schedules that have different NPK ratios yet all of them are said to be the best for cannabis.

Sgt.Stedenko · Feb 15, 2011

I've never paid for any AN product, and their snake oils are BS IMHO.
There's way too many products in their line.
I did receive quarts of their 3 part for free from my hydro shop and have been using it for 3 years without any problems. I run Lucas in hydro and 3 part in Promix.
The Pirhanna sounds like a way to separate growers from their money.
KISS

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