OldCoolSativa
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I got a pack of Blue Orca Haze last year from Swami Organic Seed. It came with a free pack of Mazar x Guerro. I got 17 seeds in the pack and popped 8 of them six weeks ago. I haven't seen any grow threads on this strain so here we are.
Swami's strain description:
First, let's get the terminology right of Blue Orca Haze's father. There's no such thing as "NL#5 x Neville’s Haze." What we're talking about here is Northern Lights #5 x Haze C (Nl5Hz) from 1988/89 seed, the original release of this legendary hybrid from Nevil's Seed Bank of Holland. Clackamas Coot reportedly grew out this seed shortly after it was obtained (delivered via courier from Mexico where the seed was shipped from Holland to) and made F2s that year from sativa leaning F1s. The F2 seeds were not grown until 2010; I am unsure how old the Nl5Hz male used to father BOH is, but it's described as seriously potent with a teeth clenching high. I also got a pack of Nl5Hz from Swami, now at F5.
I don't know if Clackamas Coots still posts here but if he reads this he will know that he and his BOEL friends who have preserved these genetics have my greatest respect and admiration, and I hope he isn't too bothered by the fact that I'm growing hydroponically. I'd love to smoke a bowl with him some day and listen to whatever stories he would be willing to share with me about the BOEL. I like what I've read about the strain and the idea of growing BOEL genetics really appeals to me.
I'm growing with hydroponics and LEDs. The seeds were germinated and vegged under LED shop lights in a flood table with GH nutes using 4/6/2 ml/gal of GH Micro/GH Bloom/GH CaMg using my 100 ppm tap water. I'll flower them in 5-gal hempy buckets with 70% coco coir / 30% perlite, under 640 W of home-made COBS (half are 3000K, half are 3500K) in a 4x4 tent. I also flash a 12W 730 nm far red light for 20 minutes at lights out. I plan to start using Jack's Hydro, Calcium nitrate and epsom salts when flower these plants. I'll detail the nute regime when I get there.
The plants were germinated 6 weeks ago and are currently between 5" and 10" tall in 4" square pots in coco. They are fairly uniform in appearance and have tight internode spacing and strong mainstems. BOH1 is the sativa leaner based on leaf morphology. BOH 3 is the largest and has the strongest odor (incense). BOH4 is the runt at 5" tall but has a slightly sticky stem rub with a lime smell. BOH7 has purple petioles on the upper fan leaves. BOH8 has a musky smell.
I have 4-6 weeks before the flower tent becomes available, and I have a small space in which I can separately flower males and make pollen. I think I'm going to let these seed plants veg for another 2 weeks at which point I'll hopefully be able to take enough cuttings to get at least two rooted clones per plant. I'll put one set of clones under 12/12 to determine sex while I continue to veg the other set. Then I'll re-pot the female clones in veg into 4-gallon hempy buckets and flower them under 640W of COBs, while I continue to flower the males and collect pollen. I want to make F2s using sativa-leaning parents.
Not sure if I'll be able to pull all that off in 4-6 weeks but I'll give it a try. There will also be a few Angel's Breathe F2s joining the show; that's why I want to segregate the males early so I only have to transfer the females to larger pots. I just don't have enough room for all these plants in my tent, at least not in 4-gal buckets.
I'll post pics again in a couple weeks before I take cuttings so you can get a better feel for the uncut plant structure.
Swami's strain description:
Breeders favorite, this is a nice fix for the old ratty NL#5/Neville’s Haze. Mellower and kinder on the nerves than the NLH, as well as potentially a bit more potent.
For those in the know, this is the long awaited reproduction BO x NL#5/Haze release after previous consumer testing.
This is a serious NL#5/Haze upgrade in taste and effect,and quite successful at mellowing the classic teeth clenching anxiety of the Haze. Coots 71 Afghani x 76 Thai Stick ‘Blue Orca’ brings on the flavor adding a beefier pre*soviet Kandahar indica and a top notch 70’s “dealer’s choice” Thai*stick which meshes very nicely with the 1991 NL#5 x Neville’s Haze Swami F1 male from Coot.
Very resinous and hardy plants that tend to express uniformity very well, yet some variances still occur. So if one were to prefer a more sativa selection over indica, the opportunity still exists. Again, this is one of the best sativa’s most anyone who smokes it has ever encountered as is often muttered after a session. This is not an exaggeration and caution should be taken or better daily planning implemented considering it’s long lasting soaring inebriation. Very introspective behavior prone, yet for monotonous boring long*-houred jobs, this is the answer to the laborious aspects humans often face.
Also a fantastic medicine as a spiritual sacrament since typical “over consumption” can produce a shamanic type of mental space and in some people enhance already present internal personalities, so better to hold your tongue after smoking most days.
Highly resinous flowers with a subtle hazy, yet more a sweet exotic incense scent. Smoke is all old school and predominantly Thai/haze, with deep indica bass notes surfacing after. A proper cure delivers some of the finest smoke on earth.
First, let's get the terminology right of Blue Orca Haze's father. There's no such thing as "NL#5 x Neville’s Haze." What we're talking about here is Northern Lights #5 x Haze C (Nl5Hz) from 1988/89 seed, the original release of this legendary hybrid from Nevil's Seed Bank of Holland. Clackamas Coot reportedly grew out this seed shortly after it was obtained (delivered via courier from Mexico where the seed was shipped from Holland to) and made F2s that year from sativa leaning F1s. The F2 seeds were not grown until 2010; I am unsure how old the Nl5Hz male used to father BOH is, but it's described as seriously potent with a teeth clenching high. I also got a pack of Nl5Hz from Swami, now at F5.
I don't know if Clackamas Coots still posts here but if he reads this he will know that he and his BOEL friends who have preserved these genetics have my greatest respect and admiration, and I hope he isn't too bothered by the fact that I'm growing hydroponically. I'd love to smoke a bowl with him some day and listen to whatever stories he would be willing to share with me about the BOEL. I like what I've read about the strain and the idea of growing BOEL genetics really appeals to me.
I'm growing with hydroponics and LEDs. The seeds were germinated and vegged under LED shop lights in a flood table with GH nutes using 4/6/2 ml/gal of GH Micro/GH Bloom/GH CaMg using my 100 ppm tap water. I'll flower them in 5-gal hempy buckets with 70% coco coir / 30% perlite, under 640 W of home-made COBS (half are 3000K, half are 3500K) in a 4x4 tent. I also flash a 12W 730 nm far red light for 20 minutes at lights out. I plan to start using Jack's Hydro, Calcium nitrate and epsom salts when flower these plants. I'll detail the nute regime when I get there.
The plants were germinated 6 weeks ago and are currently between 5" and 10" tall in 4" square pots in coco. They are fairly uniform in appearance and have tight internode spacing and strong mainstems. BOH1 is the sativa leaner based on leaf morphology. BOH 3 is the largest and has the strongest odor (incense). BOH4 is the runt at 5" tall but has a slightly sticky stem rub with a lime smell. BOH7 has purple petioles on the upper fan leaves. BOH8 has a musky smell.
I have 4-6 weeks before the flower tent becomes available, and I have a small space in which I can separately flower males and make pollen. I think I'm going to let these seed plants veg for another 2 weeks at which point I'll hopefully be able to take enough cuttings to get at least two rooted clones per plant. I'll put one set of clones under 12/12 to determine sex while I continue to veg the other set. Then I'll re-pot the female clones in veg into 4-gallon hempy buckets and flower them under 640W of COBs, while I continue to flower the males and collect pollen. I want to make F2s using sativa-leaning parents.
Not sure if I'll be able to pull all that off in 4-6 weeks but I'll give it a try. There will also be a few Angel's Breathe F2s joining the show; that's why I want to segregate the males early so I only have to transfer the females to larger pots. I just don't have enough room for all these plants in my tent, at least not in 4-gal buckets.
I'll post pics again in a couple weeks before I take cuttings so you can get a better feel for the uncut plant structure.