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Old 10-11-2018, 03:40 AM #11
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When I hurt my back doing concrete, I kept going to back doctors for 3 years. Every time they would take an x-ray and say I was not injured on the x-ray so there was nothing they could do.

One doctor recommended Advil. He said when he has a headache he uses Advil, as if my 9 or 10 lower back pain were similar to his headache.
This went on for 3 years and all that time I was still going to work because I had to. Doing concrete flatwork.

Finally, one doctor ordered an MRI and holy shit! My lower back was really screwed up. My L4 and L5 were herniated and 2 more were bulging just before herniation. That finally qualified me for opiate pain relief.

Now here we are 3 years and 2 open back procedures later and now I'm surprised at how much they give me. I get regular urine tests to make sure I'm using the pills - imagine that! When I was a kid I got in trouble and had to piss for probation to make sure there was nothing in me, and now I have to piss to prove it is in me!

Back when I was working, I knew a guy who suffered from lower back pain and didn't have insurance, so the few doctors he could afford to try to ask for help declined to give him any. He commited suicide. Guess it's a good thing he didn't acquire a nasty drug habit.
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If the DEA was not actively interfering in American citizens' health care by scaring their doctors out of writing prescriptions for people's pain conditions, I would say that the medical options available in 2018 are better than those 100 years ago.

Because now we have synthetic opioid mimicks, that, for some people, are healthier choices than opiates.

However, since the DEA is making the mistake of actively interfering in the access of millions of Americans to 2018 vintage health care, I think it becomes obvious that 1918 health care was able to help pain patients.

Papaver Somniferum is the name of the plant that is available in the US. It's an obvious resource for pain patients.

I've been reading the user reports at Erowid.org and one point comes across - opiates often have a delayed effect. People talk about how they feel 12 or 24 hours after consuming an opiate. (HyperReal.org might be useful too.)

It is normal to judge your dosage 5 minutes to 30 minutes after consumption.

I think with opiates it might be better to take a smaller amount, and to then wait 4 hours. A pain in the ass, especially if you're in pain - but it's only to establish dosage.

Withdrawal is another important subject. I recently went through a tapered withdrawal from Tramadol. I still have about a 90 day supply but I wanted to learn the discipline.

I don't know how I would do, if withdrawing from natural opiates.
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