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Old 03-21-2013, 11:52 AM #11
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Though old strains can be strong as well, their high is less one-dimesional, more complex and enjoyable than the modern strong strains.
the character of a high is so very important to me

its the loss of sativa influence that is making for more homogenous smoke
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First off, Fuck yeah Seattle! woot!
Second, these more moderate strains already exist!
If beer companies like Anheuser Busch step in we are fuked, that will bring in a whole slew of bioengineering that we do not need. You think that the ingredients in beer are all organic??? GMO baby all the way, except the water
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:28 PM #13
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I agree with the article.I have heard more than just a few folks asking for something that isn't so strong.I had a friend who said he wouldn't partake anymore cuase all the smoke that is available is way too strong,and he didn't enjoy it.

I think that there is indeed an untapped recreational market,especially for those who would enjoy a more casual experience.
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for those looking for mellow-strains: check out the astur jaya seedbank - they are renown for plants with mellow effects

there are more options around too, you just have to get past the hype and commercialism...


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its the loss of sativa influence that is making for more homogenous smoke
the effects of 100% indicas varies greatly... tom hill's X18 for me is a good example of a pure indica with a special and unique high of exceptional quality...

sativa influence implies a hyprid containing both indica/sativa, these hybrids tend to be heavy hitters that can mess you up pretty bad and leave you in a zombie-state afterwards... but in the end it all comes down to selection, there are pure indicas with fantastic highs just as well as hybrids or pure sativas - but there are only few seedmakers who really care for the quality of the high...

but i can see change in the seed-industry on the horizon

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i've never had a purely cerebral pure indica and the number of pure indicas or indica dominant strains that open my third eye are few and far between and even those that do don't leave me high for hours with a gentle come down, if they open my mind they relax it as well as and where the mind goes the body follows (for me at least)

however i have found sativa and sativa dominant hybrids tend to be far wider range of character and while growing long running sativas indoors was made practical through hybridization, there are hybrids that bring strong sativa characteristics to their high without the excessive flowering time

the limits of gene pools come into play but ive had and have a fair amount of access to a variety of weeds and know their effects on my mind and body
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well, third eye activity is a very special trait to look for in the effects... with this specific trait i competely agree that sativas are the best starting point (pure sativas more so than ind./sat. hybrids)

but this thread was about mellow effects and a lot of sativas are too racy to be considered mellow... but i completely get what you're saying... the plants i value the most are the ones that gently uplift me while also carrying these psychedelic properties - that's what i select for mostly (and what i find mostly with pure sativas)

but this type of effect depends more on set/setting, road of administration and tolerance than anything else: somebody with low tolerance will get really strong psychedelic effects when consuming orally no matter if it's an indica or a sativa (except maybe indicas so strong that they put them to sleep, but this also depends a lot on the dose)

also it's not the herb that opens the third eye - it is your mind, herb may facilitate the flow of energy in this point for a short period of time - but this is what most spiritualists consider a "false experience", "true experiences" for them are reached through concentration and meditation - and they say it lasts a lot longer and that those "false experiences" in the long term just lead to more confusion than benefit (that's not my opinion! just what the yogis tell me )

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Good read. I have a family member who started smoking again after 30 years of not smoking at all. A few hits off a sour d joint had her feeling very uncomforatable and she had to take some xanax to relax and fall asleep. Same person was at a new years party with a bunch of 60+ folk smoking decent mexi pretendica out of a volcano and had a blast. So she bought some of the mexi and a small vaporizer for home use.

I've smoked some old time strains and although they aren't as strong as some modern types, some are potent and seem to give more of a balanced/well-being effect. Aside from potency, maybe it is a lack of diversity in cannabinoides other than THC that is causing these effects. I've noticed that some OG strains are both very potent and leave people who dont smoke alot feeling great.
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This article is spot on. Go to the liquor store if you want to see what the future will look like. Not everyone wants to smoke like Snooki drinks.

Me being one of them. I am a light wait. I use to be able to handle bowl, after bowl, after bowl, along with some hash somewhere in there. Now a couple of puffs, and I am good for a bit.

It will be interesting to see what things look like in 10 years.
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they may just prefer it because tobacco is highly addictive?

ime nicotin ruins the special nuances of the high of a strain... one of the reasons why people only look for strength and not special nuances in the high...

in general the high is stronger when smoked than when vaporized... the high is more heady, more subtle, clearer with vaporization... whereas smoking leads to a more intoxicated feeling...

mixing cannabis and tobacco is such a bad practise... i wish i realized this way sooner - wasted a lot of good bud smoking it mixed...
totally agree. funny thing is - i am the only one who still smokes cigs, everybody else stopped. but it is ME who prefers vape over joint+baccy for exactly the reasons you state. (naturally i smoke a cig right after a few bags, but still)

back OT: we smoked some weak jamaican outdoor in AMS recently, and while it was waaay mild&mellow, the high was ace.

very strong weed doesn't equal more fun. that's only what the kids think.
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