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biggest US intelligence fuck up since 9/11

Klompen

Active member
Won't happen, there's no profit from smoldering piles of ash.

Its not their plan, but they play dangerous games and there's always some rogue element to worry about. Its important to know that its not just the president who can launch nukes, and unlike in the movies there's no real system to abort the missiles before they hit their targets. Worse yet, as AI systems are being developed and employed, we're increasingly running afoul of the "black box effect", where systems become so internally complicated that no one person is capable of understanding how they function and in many cases the core of the system is proprietary anyway.
 

Klompen

Active member
Billionaires are prepping for doomsday scenarios. The very people who pull the strings of government are worried that things will get out of control:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6137157/Why-doomsday-prepper-billionaires-building-huge-underground-survival-bunkers-New-Zealand.html

THE 'ARISTOCRAT' BUNKER

Price: $11.5million (USD $8.5million) not including installation


Capacity: 50 plus people in private rooms with queen beds and shared rooms with bunks
Security features: Bullet resistant doors, NBC air filtration systems with blast valves and over pressure valves, solar generated charging system with batteries for back-up power, infrared security system, half-inch steel plate walls, and an above-ground 'safe house' insulating the bunker's entrance


Amenities: Green house for sustainable food sources, large storage rooms, full plumbing and septic systems, dual power allowing the bunker complex to run on or off 'the grid', swimming pool, gun range, gym, sauna, bowling lane, media room, personal bathrooms with showers
Source: Rising S Company









Setting up contingency plans to fly to New Zealand has become a hot topic at Silicon Valley dinner parties, with some such as Thiel going public with their plans.
Another unnamed venture capitalist told one gathering he has a 'go bag' filled with guns on a motorbike waiting in his garage.
In the event of an emergency he will speed through traffic to a private jet, and fly to Nevada where another plane is waiting in a hangar.


That aircraft is ready and waiting to take him and four other tech moguls to New Zealand.
Mr Thiel and president of start-up incubator Y Combinator Sam Altman said in 2016 they had earmarked New Zealand as their escape destination.
Mr Altman, who also has a go bag containing a gun, gas mask, tent and antibiotics, has since said he was joking, but is genuinely concerned about biological warfare.
Other wealthy Americans who have bought properties in New Zealand include film director James Cameron and billionaire hedge fund manager Julian Robinson.
A total of 17 Americans took advantage of the country's Investor Plus Visa - which requires a $10million investment over 36 months - in the 2017 financial year.
In the resort town of Queenstown alone, ten wealthy Americans have bought mansions over the past two years, according to local real estate agents.
But the Silicon Valley rush to snap up safe houses may have contributed to new legislation banning many non-resident foreigners from buying homes.


The Doomsday Clock, maintained by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, moved to two minutes to midnight in 2018, the closest point to Armageddon since the 1950s.
 

Klompen

Active member
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimdob...e-the-worlds-largest-planned-doomsday-escape/

Billionaire Bunkers: Exclusive Look Inside the World's Largest Planned Doomsday Escape

Vivos founder and CEO Robert Vicino announced Vivos Europa One which will be an invitation only, five star, underground survival complex, similar to an underground cruise ship for the elite. Each family will be provided a private 2,500 square foot of floor area, capable of two story improvements for a total of 5,000 square feet of private living quarters. With fit and finish comparable to a mega-yacht, each member family will hire their own architect and contractor to build out their living quarters to the custom standard they desire.

The expansive shelter is located in Germany and is one of the most fortified and massive underground survival shelters on Earth. Originally built by the Soviets during the Cold War, this shelter was a fortress for military equipment and munitions. After the DDR was merged with Germany, the German government inherited this relic and intended to use it for the same purpose of weapons storage. However, due to a law prohibiting the storage of ammunition near a major highway, the German Government soon realized they could not continue with their plans and decided to auction this 76 acre complex. A wealthy investor purchased the entire property, along with all of its improvements, both above and below ground. Vicino says “We are proud to bring this epic project forward in these increasingly dangerous times.”


The hardened facility is capable of withstanding a substantial close range nuclear blast, a direct airplane crash, biological and chemical agents, shock waves, earthquakes, tsunami, electro-magnetic pulses, and virtually any armed attack.
The complex includes over 21,108 square meters (227,904 square feet) of secured, blast proof living areas; and, an additional 4,079 square meters (43,906 square feet) of above-ground office and warehouse buildings, including a train servicing depot. The typical chamber area is 5 meters wide (16.40 feet), by 6 meters tall (19.68 feet) and 85 meters (278.87 feet) long. Collectively there are over 5 kilometers (3.1 miles) of continuous tunnel chambers (equivalent to 71 Boeing 747’s fuselages stretched end to end). All shelter areas are located behind 3 separate nuclear blast and radiation proof vehicle entrances, and a number of other passages for access by people only. Each of the three main tunnel entrances includes an outer security door system, followed by a 40 ton hydraulic truck access door with hardened steel rods which expand into the surrounding encasement, and a second set of massive steel doors providing an airtight seal shut, protecting against chemical, biological and gas intrusion. The underground main traffic corridors are large enough to allow mechanical transportation of heavy equipment to almost any point within the complex.






The structural rock provides for an extremely high load carrying capacity of the mountain above, as well as superior shock wave absorption, high thermal retention, stable temperature at an average 55 degrees Fahrenheit, and humidity control.
All underground rooms are serviced by two fully customized climate and ventilation systems. The self-contained water and power generation system with three diesel generators, including redundant back-up systems, assures autonomous operation of the underground shelter without support from the outside world. This vast limestone mountain contains a water treatment plant with deep water wells, a power plant, a hospital area, restaurant areas, air filtration and cooling systems, as well as a series of massive blast doors which a tank could drive over to enter.






The above-ground facilities are equally as impressive, including several office buildings, barracks for a hundred, a power plant, fuel storage, railroad spurs complete with a train depot for repairs, guard buildings, and warehouses, all within an impenetrable perimeter wall, complete with military concertina coils. Once the gates are locked, the only way in or out of the property is by helicopter.
The original cost of the complex was estimated at over 200 million Euros, with a replacement value of approximately 1 billion Euros. The shelter is currently in turnkey operational condition ready for the common area and private living quarters improvements to outfit the underground complex for a select number of families.

Community swimming pool



Additionally, the shelter will include a collection of zoological species, an archive for the most precious artifacts and treasures of the world, a DNA Vault to preserve and protect the genomes of millions of donors, and a modern day “Hall of Records”, to autonomously survive virtually any catastrophe or disaster for several years. Vivos will retrofit, equip, furnish, stock, supply and convert this complex into a state-of-the-art, contemporary complex.

Private improvements will include all of the typical amenities enjoyed by the floating counterparts, including pools, theaters, gyms, a kitchen, bar, bedrooms and deluxe bathrooms. The possibilities are limited only by each member’s personal desire.
Vivos will provide each living quarters with power lines, plumbing for water and sewage, HVAC systems, communications lines, security systems, internet and closed circuit systems.






All common areas will be improved and outfitted by Vivos, including the roadways, restaurants, bakery, brewery pub, wine cellar, community meeting rooms, prayer rooms and chapels, nursery play rooms, classrooms, training rooms, computer areas, a television and radio station, the communications center, security and detention center, vaults for valuables, security equipment and devices, water purification facility, deep water wells, interior water and fuel storage tanks, power plant, air handling and (NBC) nuclear, biological and chemical filtration systems, battery backup power storage, mechanical repair shop, decontamination showers, private offices, pet kennels, a hair salon, theaters, the hydroponic gardens, a fully equipped hospital, storage rooms and warehouse areas, all food and medical supplies, a non-hybrid seed bank and the DNA storage bank.

Vivos
will also provide the electric transportation vehicles and trams, armored security vehicles, helicopters, protective suits and apparatus for outdoor chemical, biological and radiation exposure, above-ground offices and warehouses, a security center, the rail spur and maintenance station, the above-ground power plant, above-ground gardens and open space, farming, fishing and hunting equipment, boats and rafts.






Once each member's private accommodations are completed, furnished and fully outfitted, their respective quarters will be locked and secured, limiting access to their families and staff prior to lockdown; while Vivos will operate and maintain all common areas (under and above-ground) pending a catastrophic event.
Members will arrive at their own discretion, prior to lockdown, landing their private planes at nearby airports. Vivos helicopters will then be deployed to rendezvous with each member group, and safely fly them back to the shelter compound, behind the sealed gates from the general public. Members will then enter the shelter and access their private quarters. Each family will pay a base amount for their respective living quarter’s area, along with their fair share of the ongoing stand-by costs for operational management, staffing, taxes, insurance, maintenance, utilities, and restocking as needed.






Vivos has planned doomsday retreats in the past including private bunkers for residences, but it is only now that this new location has come to fruition offering up a unique potential for those who truly want the ultimate in personal safety for their families.
 

MJPassion

Observer
ICMag Donor
Veteran
I wonder how much KNOW HOW these VIPs have and if THEY THEMSELVES will posses the ability to repair anything that becomes damaged (especially the highly technical aspects of the shelter(s)?
Or will they hire an expendable staff that has the know how?
 

Klompen

Active member
I wonder how much KNOW HOW these VIPs have and if THEY THEMSELVES will posses the ability to repair anything that becomes damaged (especially the highly technical aspects of the shelter(s)?
Or will they hire an expendable staff that has the know how?

Chris Hedges often says that after watching what happened in Eastern Europe(especially the Balkans), its probably going to end with their working-class guards and staff murdering them and taking the bunkers for themselves. These people are too pampered to live without minions, and minions are not going to appreciate being stuck as their whipping boys for the foreseeable future.
 

Cannavore

Well-known member
Veteran
Won't happen, there's no profit from smoldering piles of ash.

depends on your perspective. if most of every one else dies while you're living in underground cities, the planet is essentially yours for the taking which sounds like profitting to me lol.

they won't need humans much sooner with the advent of AI and the technological singularity on the horizon.
 

Rocky Mtn Squid

EL CID SQUID
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RMS

:smoweed:
 

Klompen

Active member
Operation Paperclip brought a whole bunch of literal Nazis into the American intelligence and technology sectors.
 
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