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Fender Super's 2017 backyard greenhouse grow
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FenderSuper
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Organic...
alfalfa meal and bone meal are organic nutrients along with a lot of other things.
If you only want organic nutes then I may be able to suggest a few like cane molasses and if you want synthetic nutes then you can go with really any nutrient line.
I'm personally using some general hydroponics and Raw nutrient ammendments
If you only want organic nutes then I may be able to suggest a few like cane molasses and if you want synthetic nutes then you can go with really any nutrient line.
I'm personally using some general hydroponics and Raw nutrient ammendments
Ibechillin
Masochist Educator
Sorry i didnt see this earlier...
Beneficial Bacteria Source:
Worm Castings 1-1-1
Can be used as soil and ammendment.
Can be brewed in teas.
Beneficial Bacteria Boosters:
Forest Humus
Humic Acid
Fulvic Acid
^These help colonize beneficial bacteria and boost nutrient uptake ability.
Nitrogen Sources:
Blood Meal 13-0-0
Water soluble powder, acidic ph.
Feather Meal 12-0-0
Amendment
Mexican Bat Guano 8-1-1
Amendment/brewed in teas.
Neem Meal 6-1-2
Amendment
Alfalfa Meal 3-1-2
Amendment
Phosphorous Sources:
Bone Meal 0-15-0 & Calcium Source
Amendment, can get liquid bone meal also which is readily available to the plant for flowering.
Fish Bone Meal 0-15-0 & Calcium Source
Amendment
Indonesian Bat Guano 0-12-0
Amendment/brewed in teas.
Seabird Guano 0-11-0
Amendment/brewed in teas.
Jamaican Bat Guano 0-10-0
Amendment/brewed in teas.
Potassium Source:
Sulfate Of Potash 0-0-50
Water soluble powder/salt.
Transition To Flower:
Fish Meal 8-6-0
Amendment
Crab Meal 4-5-0
Amendment
Calcium & Magnesium Source:
Dolomite Lime
Amendment, raises low soil ph to neutral (7) lowers high soil ph to neutral (7).
Magnesium & Sulphur Source:
Epsom Salt
Calcium, Magnesium, Sulfur & Potassium:
Molasses
Plant Growth Regulators/Hormones:
Kelp Meal 1-0-2
Amendment, can get liquid extract as well.
Trace Minerals:
Azomite
Beneficial Bacteria Source:
Worm Castings 1-1-1
Can be used as soil and ammendment.
Can be brewed in teas.
Beneficial Bacteria Boosters:
Forest Humus
Humic Acid
Fulvic Acid
^These help colonize beneficial bacteria and boost nutrient uptake ability.
Nitrogen Sources:
Blood Meal 13-0-0
Water soluble powder, acidic ph.
Feather Meal 12-0-0
Amendment
Mexican Bat Guano 8-1-1
Amendment/brewed in teas.
Neem Meal 6-1-2
Amendment
Alfalfa Meal 3-1-2
Amendment
Phosphorous Sources:
Bone Meal 0-15-0 & Calcium Source
Amendment, can get liquid bone meal also which is readily available to the plant for flowering.
Fish Bone Meal 0-15-0 & Calcium Source
Amendment
Indonesian Bat Guano 0-12-0
Amendment/brewed in teas.
Seabird Guano 0-11-0
Amendment/brewed in teas.
Jamaican Bat Guano 0-10-0
Amendment/brewed in teas.
Potassium Source:
Sulfate Of Potash 0-0-50
Water soluble powder/salt.
Transition To Flower:
Fish Meal 8-6-0
Amendment
Crab Meal 4-5-0
Amendment
Calcium & Magnesium Source:
Dolomite Lime
Amendment, raises low soil ph to neutral (7) lowers high soil ph to neutral (7).
Magnesium & Sulphur Source:
Epsom Salt
Calcium, Magnesium, Sulfur & Potassium:
Molasses
Plant Growth Regulators/Hormones:
Kelp Meal 1-0-2
Amendment, can get liquid extract as well.
Trace Minerals:
Azomite
FenderSuper
Member
Thanlks, man!!! I'm going to the beach this week to get my own seaweed, work it in water for three weeks and it will emulsify. The emulsion can be mixed 20:1 so it'll last a long time, and can go on the compost pile when it gets too stinky.
Beautiful grow! Really happy girls in that greenhouse.
FenderSuper
Member
Oh man, so much to tell, so many lessons learned, some good, others very hard and costly, but I've always said in one way or another, we pay for our education,
When last we tuned in, my veg state growth was going very well. SO well, in fact, I was totally oblivious to the fact, the plants were becoming VERY top heavy. Kosher Kush has HUGE fan leaves, and a gazillion of them. I learned the hard way, with ALL these plants, you have to super crop to get the short-squatty plants many indica strains are known for. KK is not. I have done some mild LST, using stakes and zip ties to pull buds away from the sides of the greenhouse. But the top heaviness got to the point plants were falling down and trying to yank the root ball out of the soil. If you're growing Kosher Kush, read about it because I didn't and would have been better off with Afghani or Blueberry, which don't grow so tall. Those will be my strains, next year and the year after. Next year I grow from seed, the year after that, I clone each plant
This first year has been expensive as fuck with how much production I lost simply because I didn't really know what I was doing during veg stage. I never cropped the plants much (a HUGE mistake with Kosher Kush) because I wanted to understand WHY we crop. Now, I get it. Branches just BROKE off, they were so heavy with very moist fan leaves. I also get the notion behind LST which I did a little of, but only to keep buds off the plastic shell of the greenhouse. Also, don't let the lower branches get very big. Want to sent all the resources toward the top of the plant. There were also some variable expenses I won't have to buy, again, No greenhouse, no dust respirator, no kiddie pool, no aquarium pump, no rake, no shovel, no gloves, none of that shit. Over the winter, I want to do a little greenhouse interior design so watering, lighting and other frequent tasks (other than watching them grow, which is perfect meditation) will be easier and more organized. I'll be posting PDF diagrams (doG, I love Illustrator) and I'm open to anyone's input. Watering and heat dissipation will be two factors I'll be looking at. I'd LIKE to get away from the watering can, but I have to figure it out. Maybe pop-bottle irrigation, but you have to put the bottles in the soil either prior to or just after you plant the small plants (12-14 inches) into the smart pots. I'm planting 10 seeds of each species, so any popped seeds I cannot use, PM me for possible availability. Ask me in early spring, when I see how many seeds pop. These will be real seedlings, not clones and they'll be developed to 12 inches high so they're ready for transplanting as soon as you're ready.
Another mistake was choosing KK in the first place. Next year it will be either Afghani/Blueberry, or just Blueberry, grown from seed. I'm going to get a fair amount of KK bud, anyway, just not nearly as much as I expected, because there were so many instances of the branches getting heavy (esp low on the plant), and breaking off from the main stems. I was thinking at the time, the freebie clone the guy threw in would be just a "practice plant," but it's in REALLY good shape (it's NYC diesel) and the buds are quite awesome on it, but I'm not much of a sativa guy, so most of that bud will probably be given away. Just the same, nice to have SOMETHING to gift to the folks who have been kind to me.
As you can see, mah bitches are fully into flower at this point. I admit, I wasn't prepared for the fan-leaf death that took place when I flipped them into flower. All the yellow leaves freaked me out. At first I suspected magnesium deficiency so I added some epsom salts to a topcoat. Then I suspected nitrogen, so I threw a bunch of blood meal on as a topcoat but that didn't help, so I took most of the blood meal topcoat off and threw it in a compost pot because feeding nitrogen to flowering plants is NOT a good idear. Finally I gave up on the fan leaves and came to what I hope was the correct topcoat consisting of H-F 0-5-0 bat guano, some bone meal (4-12-0), kelp meal some oyster shell (eggshells will be used for calcium next year) and some azomite. I kept them in veg for a full eight weeks (from late June to late August) to grow the clones to flower in Sept-Oct. Flipped them in late August. Still don't have cloudy trichomes yet, but I suspect that's coming soon. I want to go 50-50 between milky and amber trichs, so I get SOME narcotic stone but not totally blowing out KK's other, heady effects.
The photos will tell most of it. I'm embarrassed I was so unprepared for the height of Kosher Kush, but I am prepared (mentally) for a somewhat different approach (growing from seed, fewer, squattier plants, yet still great genetics) for next year. I'm running costs for next year's grow already, mapping out what to do and when, so when I have more of a plan than I did this year,I hope it consists of more than me thinking, "I hope I'm getting this shit right."
I'll also do full-strength Subcool soil next year. I'll be starting getting new soil ready in early January, after a short vacation from growing, and getting the bag soil and amendments for one of the smart pots. My bag soil is Kellogg's Patio Plus, and based on this year's results, you guys using more expensive bag soil for your Subcool are wasting your money. But whatever, suit yourself. For each pot, it will take about $125 of soil and amendments. Cost of doing business. I'll be researching other ways to lower the cost but there's an extent to which the costs are what they are and if you want to do this, you do what you must.
How's everyone else's grow doing this glorious harvest season? Sorry for my absence but honestly, I kinda felt ashamed of all my mistakes. Shit happens, that's for sure.
Pix below.
A forest of bud - not bad for a novice?
Trichomes, baby!!!
More trichomes!!!
NYC Diesel bud.
More NYC Diesel bud
When last we tuned in, my veg state growth was going very well. SO well, in fact, I was totally oblivious to the fact, the plants were becoming VERY top heavy. Kosher Kush has HUGE fan leaves, and a gazillion of them. I learned the hard way, with ALL these plants, you have to super crop to get the short-squatty plants many indica strains are known for. KK is not. I have done some mild LST, using stakes and zip ties to pull buds away from the sides of the greenhouse. But the top heaviness got to the point plants were falling down and trying to yank the root ball out of the soil. If you're growing Kosher Kush, read about it because I didn't and would have been better off with Afghani or Blueberry, which don't grow so tall. Those will be my strains, next year and the year after. Next year I grow from seed, the year after that, I clone each plant
This first year has been expensive as fuck with how much production I lost simply because I didn't really know what I was doing during veg stage. I never cropped the plants much (a HUGE mistake with Kosher Kush) because I wanted to understand WHY we crop. Now, I get it. Branches just BROKE off, they were so heavy with very moist fan leaves. I also get the notion behind LST which I did a little of, but only to keep buds off the plastic shell of the greenhouse. Also, don't let the lower branches get very big. Want to sent all the resources toward the top of the plant. There were also some variable expenses I won't have to buy, again, No greenhouse, no dust respirator, no kiddie pool, no aquarium pump, no rake, no shovel, no gloves, none of that shit. Over the winter, I want to do a little greenhouse interior design so watering, lighting and other frequent tasks (other than watching them grow, which is perfect meditation) will be easier and more organized. I'll be posting PDF diagrams (doG, I love Illustrator) and I'm open to anyone's input. Watering and heat dissipation will be two factors I'll be looking at. I'd LIKE to get away from the watering can, but I have to figure it out. Maybe pop-bottle irrigation, but you have to put the bottles in the soil either prior to or just after you plant the small plants (12-14 inches) into the smart pots. I'm planting 10 seeds of each species, so any popped seeds I cannot use, PM me for possible availability. Ask me in early spring, when I see how many seeds pop. These will be real seedlings, not clones and they'll be developed to 12 inches high so they're ready for transplanting as soon as you're ready.
Another mistake was choosing KK in the first place. Next year it will be either Afghani/Blueberry, or just Blueberry, grown from seed. I'm going to get a fair amount of KK bud, anyway, just not nearly as much as I expected, because there were so many instances of the branches getting heavy (esp low on the plant), and breaking off from the main stems. I was thinking at the time, the freebie clone the guy threw in would be just a "practice plant," but it's in REALLY good shape (it's NYC diesel) and the buds are quite awesome on it, but I'm not much of a sativa guy, so most of that bud will probably be given away. Just the same, nice to have SOMETHING to gift to the folks who have been kind to me.
As you can see, mah bitches are fully into flower at this point. I admit, I wasn't prepared for the fan-leaf death that took place when I flipped them into flower. All the yellow leaves freaked me out. At first I suspected magnesium deficiency so I added some epsom salts to a topcoat. Then I suspected nitrogen, so I threw a bunch of blood meal on as a topcoat but that didn't help, so I took most of the blood meal topcoat off and threw it in a compost pot because feeding nitrogen to flowering plants is NOT a good idear. Finally I gave up on the fan leaves and came to what I hope was the correct topcoat consisting of H-F 0-5-0 bat guano, some bone meal (4-12-0), kelp meal some oyster shell (eggshells will be used for calcium next year) and some azomite. I kept them in veg for a full eight weeks (from late June to late August) to grow the clones to flower in Sept-Oct. Flipped them in late August. Still don't have cloudy trichomes yet, but I suspect that's coming soon. I want to go 50-50 between milky and amber trichs, so I get SOME narcotic stone but not totally blowing out KK's other, heady effects.
The photos will tell most of it. I'm embarrassed I was so unprepared for the height of Kosher Kush, but I am prepared (mentally) for a somewhat different approach (growing from seed, fewer, squattier plants, yet still great genetics) for next year. I'm running costs for next year's grow already, mapping out what to do and when, so when I have more of a plan than I did this year,I hope it consists of more than me thinking, "I hope I'm getting this shit right."
I'll also do full-strength Subcool soil next year. I'll be starting getting new soil ready in early January, after a short vacation from growing, and getting the bag soil and amendments for one of the smart pots. My bag soil is Kellogg's Patio Plus, and based on this year's results, you guys using more expensive bag soil for your Subcool are wasting your money. But whatever, suit yourself. For each pot, it will take about $125 of soil and amendments. Cost of doing business. I'll be researching other ways to lower the cost but there's an extent to which the costs are what they are and if you want to do this, you do what you must.
How's everyone else's grow doing this glorious harvest season? Sorry for my absence but honestly, I kinda felt ashamed of all my mistakes. Shit happens, that's for sure.
Pix below.
A forest of bud - not bad for a novice?
Trichomes, baby!!!
More trichomes!!!
NYC Diesel bud.
More NYC Diesel bud
The best lessons are learned the hard way so you don't forget. Think of how much better next year will be from what you learned this year.
Another option to help lower cost is using compost. If there are any horse stables near you they usually have massive compost piles and they don't mind people taking it away. If its been sitting for over a year or two its a goldmine. Earthworms so large you'd think they should have teeth.
As for bagged composts Coast of Maine has great products especially their lobster compost.
-Funk
Another option to help lower cost is using compost. If there are any horse stables near you they usually have massive compost piles and they don't mind people taking it away. If its been sitting for over a year or two its a goldmine. Earthworms so large you'd think they should have teeth.
As for bagged composts Coast of Maine has great products especially their lobster compost.
-Funk
FenderSuper
Member
No retail outlets in California. :-(
FenderSuper
Member
Welp, first trichome inspection showed clear trichs. All clear. More waiting (more like hanging out and getting fucked up) to commence. Magnifier was easier to use than I expected, but I was a newspaper photographer for 30 years, remembering things at a glance is part of the job description.
FenderSuper
Member
OK, the crop is in. Drying in 30 percent RH, 75 degrees, fans a blowing, but I had to quick-dry some product and sample...
Fuck ME!!!, I have never gotten top shelf from a dispensary that touches this. Can't wait to try the final product. More flowering report to come.
Fuck ME!!!, I have never gotten top shelf from a dispensary that touches this. Can't wait to try the final product. More flowering report to come.
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