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Incognegro
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Na.. I had 3-4foot tall ladies in 3-5gal pots, on a non recovery drip system. Pump came on about 1hour after lights, and then went off about 20-30mins later...everyday.
But then I've slowly merged over to bubbling tubs with coco as my structure medium (to hold plants up in netcups).. I may go back to full coco when I get moved into the warehouse....dunno.
Oh don't get me wrong I love coco... absolutely love it and will only go back to soil to do a TLO grow, but I don't see that happening anytime soon, unless I can get one goin outdoors....
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chefro420
Maybe try a lower ph of around 5.8 and you should do better . I made the same mistake , when I stopped amending the SS#4
Hi may be i can help i always amend ss 4 with 30 % percent perlite and extra lime .I used botinicare and had problems with ph after bout 5 weeks had to flush to bring ph back over six.Check run off and ppms chances are its low and ppms high causing toxic root zone flush with mild nute s till ph is above 6 that always worked for me and when your tired of f----ing with SS go buy some coco LOL ....
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chefro420
Got some new pix to get up shortly. Everything is looking great! They were vegged under a 430w hortilux hps . All of them look fairly similar , with the SS#4 still slightly more bushy. All are the same height . I tossed them into flower yesterday!
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dubdi3mond
dunno if you guys know this or not (i didnt until last week) but if you are gonna flush coco DO NOT flush with straight ph'd water, it will throw your PH off bad and you will have twisted shitty looking leaves spewing everywhere
checked my HG mix, PH was fine
where I went wrong is (this is my first time coco btw) I let the coco dry out which threw my PH off anyway, then I tried to flush with straight water to correct, threw ph off even more
maybe im a dumbass and you guys already knew this but just make sure not to let your coco dry out completely and if you do need to flush use a mild nute mix rather than just straight water
checked my HG mix, PH was fine
where I went wrong is (this is my first time coco btw) I let the coco dry out which threw my PH off anyway, then I tried to flush with straight water to correct, threw ph off even more
maybe im a dumbass and you guys already knew this but just make sure not to let your coco dry out completely and if you do need to flush use a mild nute mix rather than just straight water
MagicChef
Member
Beta- Thanks for the reply...I dont have a cal/mag source other than what I would be getting from the Botanicare Veg and Karma. The SS #4 soil has a bit of lime but not enough to provide a good source of Calcium, right? Could that two handfuls of EWC thrown something off? The botanicare is a 3-2-4 with 1% calcium and .5% magnesium... Do I need more? I really need some help! I didnt try to jack your thread..
Incognegro
Member
I've never had trouble with ph swings with dryin out... I've almost always noticed the drastic results of flushing, but have never really minded... i flush to flush, lol, so it's fine to me...
Coco is considered by most as a hydro medium, so alot of affects show instantly...
I like this side by side experiment but to me it seems very logical to mix both of them up. I have seen great results with 70% Coco and 30% Sunshine Mix #4.
I gotta say though, i prefer soil its less problematic and like most peeps say, you don't have to water every single day.
I think the best way to go about Coco is hooking it up to a drip system and use the block Coco. Then carefully when using nutrients to hand water. I have heard a lot of problems with some nutrients causing problems with drip systems.
I gotta say though, i prefer soil its less problematic and like most peeps say, you don't have to water every single day.
I think the best way to go about Coco is hooking it up to a drip system and use the block Coco. Then carefully when using nutrients to hand water. I have heard a lot of problems with some nutrients causing problems with drip systems.
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chefro420
Everyone complains about watering coco daily. I don't know about yours , but once my plants get going in SS#4 they need water almost daily or every other day too.
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]A[Boss
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thats what dripclean was REALLY made for.. to keep drip lines clear, SM-90 also works for this. You can also use regular tubing and tee's to make your own watering system without drippers.
nezquick707
New member
true, dripclean saved my ass when i was running GH in my drip system. The emitters would constantly get plugged up and i'd either have to clean or replace them.
After a few weeks you'll probley be watering the ss#4 daily just like coco, so in the end its really your preference on yield between coco and ss#4 IMO
After a few weeks you'll probley be watering the ss#4 daily just like coco, so in the end its really your preference on yield between coco and ss#4 IMO
HI Chefro where's those pics you talkin bout? i have some plants in promix and the coco is leaving them behind. Already had to flush the prom ix to get up the PH, Coco just keeps takin nutes and stable ph .. twic a day with mild nutes plants are loving it..
Buddler
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chefro420
SS#4
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chefro420
Still got a lot to learn!
Yeah , they both look fairly close. The SS#4 may be slightly branchier. Although the stems on the coco are thicker .
Yeah , they both look fairly close. The SS#4 may be slightly branchier. Although the stems on the coco are thicker .
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chefro420
I have been watering 1-2x a day . I have also added liquid karma 10ml a gal (every watering) , and florialicious organic base enhancer ( 1x a week) to both . ALso the coco is getting 2.5ml/gal of cal/mg
This one really depends on your setup and if your plants are drying out . There is certainly a chance that things are hot in your gro and drying out fast and need water everyday . Depends on lots of things. It's important to check with your hand if it's dry then of-course water. If not let it dry out before watering again. peace out Headband707
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chefro420
This one really depends on your setup and if your plants are drying out . There is certainly a chance that things are hot in your gro and drying out fast and need water everyday . Depends on lots of things. It's important to check with your hand if it's dry then of-course water. If not let it dry out before watering again. peace out Headband707
Thanks for the advice! Temps ae 78-80 lights on and 72 lights off , humidity 45%. Been watering the shit out of them, with no ill effects. Buckets are heavy as hell atm. SO maybe letting it dry some would be best or , keep doing what I have been?
