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Old 02-27-2017, 11:31 PM #41
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We need a president that isnt rich and doesnt want to be. Hillary would have fucked us all just as much as the idiot in charge. Bernie would have won for sure. Everybody should harass and publicly shame debbie "the **** whore" wasserman shultz. She should be held accountable for fucking bernie and america over. If she runs for office again in fl I will show up at a campaign stop to fuck her good time up and let eveybody know trump is her fault.
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We need a president that isnt rich and doesnt want to be. Hillary would have fucked us all just as much as the idiot in charge. Bernie would have won for sure. Everybody should harass and publicly shame debbie "the **** whore" wasserman shultz. She should be held accountable for fucking bernie and america over. If she runs for office again in fl I will show up at a campaign stop to fuck her good time up and let eveybody know trump is her fault.
People can be thrown in jail for 30 years, for victimless crime, and those political whores screw 300 million people, and could cause millions to die from their actions, and nothing is done.
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Funny how blind people can be to connecting events.

The same week the the Trump administration did the topic of this thread, the also took away the action that blocked the building of any new private prisons.
Amazing coincidence ? I think not.

5% of the World's population, 25% of the World's prisoners.
Building new private prisons enriches who ?
What we have in the Trump administration is simply billionaires taking action, for their billionaire relatives & buddies, to profit more billions.
No swamp draining. No fighting the establishment.
The billionaires in charge will try to control the MJ completely for the same benefit of the same billionaires.
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Old 02-28-2017, 12:03 AM #44
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What’s interesting is how many stories Forbes has been running on the subject. Is it just the money or how the money is being spent?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwb.../#619dbd26292c
Billionaires making decisions to help their billionaire buddies make more billions. All that is happening in the " Make America Strong ! " swindle. That is why Forbes has it.
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Not so sure about that.
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Published: Feb 27, 2017, 4:09 pm • Updated: about 3 hours ago


Sessions: More violence around marijuana than ‘one would think’

Attorney General says he doesn't think America will be a better place with "more people smoking pot."

By Sadie Gurman and Eric Tucker, The Associated Press

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department will try to adopt “responsible policies” for enforcement of federal anti-marijuana laws, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Monday, adding that he believes violence surrounds sales and use of the drug in the U.S.

In a meeting with reporters, Sessions said the department was reviewing an Obama administration Justice Department memo that gave states flexibility in passing marijuana laws.

“Experts are telling me there’s more violence around marijuana than one would think,” Sessions said.

The comments were in keeping with remarks last week from White House spokesman Sean Spicer, who said the Justice Department would step up enforcement of federal law against recreational marijuana.

Sessions stopped short of saying what he would do, but said he doesn’t think America will be a better place with “more people smoking pot.”

“I am definitely not a fan of expanded use of marijuana,” he said. “But states, they can pass the laws they choose. I would just say, it does remain a violation of federal law to distribute marijuana throughout any place in the United States, whether a state legalizes it or not.”

Eight states and the District of Columbia have legalized marijuana for recreational use. The Justice Department has several options available should it decide to enforce the law, including filing lawsuits on the grounds that state laws regulating pot are unconstitutional because they are pre-empted by federal law.

Studies have found no correlation between legalization of marijuana and violent crime rates. But law enforcement officials in states such as Colorado say drug traffickers have taken advantage of lax marijuana laws to hide in plain sight, illegally growing and shipping the drug across state lines, where it can sell for much higher.

Pot advocates say the officials have exaggerated the problem.

“You can’t sue somebody for a drug debt. The only way to get your money is through strong-arm tactics, and violence tends to follow that,” Sessions said.

Sessions said he met with Nebraska’s attorney general, who sued Colorado for allegedly not keeping marijuana within its borders. That lawsuit was dismissed by the U.S. Supreme Court, but neighboring states continue to gripe that Colorado and other pot-legal states have not done enough to keep the drug from crossing their borders.


https://www.thecannabist.co/2017/02/2...-policy/74493/
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“You can’t sue somebody for a drug debt. The only way to get your money is through strong-arm tactics, and violence tends to follow that,” Sessions said.
It was always that way with the black market. Sessions & Trump can make it that way again everywhere by closing the pot shops in legalized states.

I did enjoy the way that the SCOTUS stuffed the Oklahoma Nebraska lawsuit against Colorado. They deemed it so frivolous that they didn't even comment.

The one takeaway from all this that people need to heed is that the Feds will co-opt local authorities in their war against interstate operations. We've seen a lot of that in Southern Colorado. With more legalized states we'll see a lot more of it & we may see more federal money for Staties to break travelers' balls.
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We need a president that isnt rich and doesnt want to be. Hillary would have fucked us all just as much as the idiot in charge. Bernie would have won for sure. Everybody should harass and publicly shame debbie "the **** whore" wasserman shultz. She should be held accountable for fucking bernie and america over. If she runs for office again in fl I will show up at a campaign stop to fuck her good time up and let eveybody know trump is her fault.
It doesn't matter if the president is rich or not. Right now, the president has too much power, this country turned the office into almost a God.
The president is supposed to be just one of three checks and balances. If Senators and Judges don't need to fly and drove around with a small army, neither should the President.

What we need is to go back to the way it was supposed to be, with a small federal govt. But that won't happen.
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fuuny to hear people act like Trump is some kind of 'rabid' conservative. Remember how in the primaries the right was bitching that they were never trump and Trump was not a conservative?
BTW jhhhn, Mitt lost because millions of guys like me did not vote for him, just like we would not vote for McCain or Dole or any other RINOs. We hated Bush too. both of them.

Trump's base is a bit different than you think. much more like me than the classic old republican.
not saying we have no worries, but all this lunatic, sky is falling Trump is a dictator crap is, well, crap.

Trump's real opposition are establishment RINOs.

btw, Hillary said, as has been pointed out here, that she wanted to move MJ to sch2.

pulling my hair out about that one.

nice company next to meth, cocaine and valium and oxycodone, etc. No pot docs. Pharmacies only to dispense, no flowers or dabs ever. only pills and patches.

I know that down the road from me is a giant disp. cultivation center that is OK with legalization, but just as OK with sch2. WHY? because with rec they'll make billions, but the competition is cut down ssooo much if it goes sch2 that they'll make even more. They are already into pills and patches, so they're down with that. they welcome it.

So, we need to logically and deliberately contact senators, Reps, the AG, Trump, and plead our case. Not scream, not go on about Anslinger and racism, just tell them about the positives.


Trump will change when he's shown he's wrong on something.
remember he was cool with waterboarding till Mattis and Kelly talked to him, then he deferred to their experience and judgement and said he was no longer for it.

It'll probably take MPP types to make any high level contact with the admin, but will take us on the legislative end, calling, emailing, etc our reps. flood the AG with calls too. but not the nasty 'you guys are nazis' insaneness the left has shown so far. remember LOTS of us on the right are pro MJ.
we were Trump's base, not the old right you're thinking of.
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Ever since I saw that Hilary was running for president, I had a really bad feeling. Ever since I saw Hilary do the "whore smile" during a presidential debate, I knew she was only a puppet.
Trump is in there to do what needs to be done and get our country back on track. Bernie would follow what anyone tells him to do, he has no backbone. Only trump tells his intentions without constantly changing his mind. The facts of topics change, but overall I believe what he says is his own decisiveness. With politicians nowadays they mostly follow popular opinion and that's not good for a country that has so many problems to be solved. Even Bernie and Hillary promise to make weed less illegal, we need a better leader to run this country.

As for this statement about recreational marijuana. We have to continue to handle things within Congress to change the laws. Look what happened with Trump's laws he signed into effect, they were stopped by Congress. What's the point to putting a president into power that agrees with one topic but can't make any real changes without the approval of the other branches of government? That's why USA is considered a free country with a progressive governing system. The power is distributed between the branches so the majority has to be on board to change the laws.
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