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Old 06-01-2019, 07:58 PM #1
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A possible cure for lyme disease

https://www.newhaven.edu/news/releas...me-disease.php

Could a common sweetener that's already in the kitchen cupboards in many American homes — stevia — prove to be an effective treatment for a disease as debilitating and persistent as Lyme disease?

It's too early to say that for sure, but research by Eva Sapi, a University of New Haven professor of cellular and molecular biology, and the students in her Lyme Disease Research Group looks promising.

In a paper published in the European Journal of Microbiology & Immunology, Sapi and her students found that the most antibiotic resistant form of Borrelia burgdorferi, the bacteria that causes Lyme disease — called biofilm — actually increased in mass with individual antibiotics.

But liquid, whole-leaf stevia extract — not the powdered varieties that people most commonly use — reduced the biofilm mass by about 40 percent, they found.

"Is it the one?" Sapi asked. "I don't know." But in confirmation test after confirmation test, "that is the one that jumped out."

A small clinical trial based out of New York got underway just a few months ago, and researchers there are using stevia along with antibiotics to try and treat Lyme disease, while others are taking the extract themselves.



I've got emails from people saying they're getting better, but again, we need to have double-blind clinical trials before we say ‘yes'. Everybody is holding their breath to see if it helps, and let's hope for it. That would be wonderful.
– Professor Eva Sapi, Ph.D.


Let's hope that happens.
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Old 06-01-2019, 08:10 PM #2
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Old 06-01-2019, 09:18 PM #3
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I've had Lyme. Over 10 year ago. Lost my appetite and 60 pounds.
Got again 4 or 5 years ago. No where near as bad. Just sore and groggy that time
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Old 06-01-2019, 09:54 PM #4
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I've known about Stevia plants for almost 10 years. I also keep telling myself I'll grow some
one of these day. Could be a great substitute for sugar in cooking recipes and why I want it.
I haven't tried it yet though.
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I've known about Stevia plants for almost 10 years. I also keep telling myself I'll grow some
one of these day. Could be a great substitute for sugar in cooking recipes and why I want it.
I haven't tried it yet though.
I've grown it a few times. Sometimes it's sold as sweet leaf other times stevia.

Square stems like mint has a sweet brown paper bag taste sometimes
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I've grown it a few times. Sometimes it's sold as sweet leaf other times stevia.

Square stems like mint has a sweet brown paper bag taste sometimes
Ive seen it for sale at a local market. Maybe I should get some next time.
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......Sapi and her students found that the most antibiotic resistant form of Borrelia burgdorferi, the bacteria that causes Lyme disease — called biofilm — actually increased in mass with individual antibiotics.
I can't make sense of that stement. WHAT is "called biofilm?" No paritcular bacteria strain is called biofilm. A biofilm is a protective slimy covering which many bacteria species use as a shild against the outside world, including antibiotics. Bacteria under biofilm may require 10 or 20 times the antibiotic power to be killed, compared to the same bacteria without biofilm protection. Some biofilm-covered bacteria cannot be eradicated at all, or can but with great difficulty.

I have no trouble with the story as a whole, but that sentence is weird.
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Shifted as soon as I found out. I went undiagnosed for a long time due to doctors office dropping the ball on a positive test result. Lyme caused allot of health problems for me.
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I can't make sense of that stement. WHAT is "called biofilm?" No paritcular bacteria strain is called biofilm. A biofilm is a protective slimy covering which many bacteria species use as a shild against the outside world, including antibiotics. Bacteria under biofilm may require 10 or 20 times the antibiotic power to be killed, compared to the same bacteria without biofilm protection. Some biofilm-covered bacteria cannot be eradicated at all, or can but with great difficulty.

I have no trouble with the story as a whole, but that sentence is weird.
I have heard that the Lyme bacteria travel throughout the body and congregate in between joints if bones and sometimes can be very hard to completely eradicate with antibiotics.

Maybe the bacteria form the biofilm in the joints.
I know that's where most of my pain was located. Neck and knee joints.
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The spiral bacteria (spyrochete) is similar to syphilis. Lyme was created by the US government in a biowarfare germ factory on Gardners Island NY. It was first diagnosed in people in Lyme CT, just across the water in Long Island Sound.
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