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Old 02-20-2019, 04:21 AM #21
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Ok, so I finally got around to pressure cooking some roots.

I washed and then mostly dried them, then they went in the freezer for over a week. Pulled them out yesterday, chopped up a handful with scissors and put them in a jar with oil. I did not pack the roots in and used enough oil to cover them a few mm's deep.

Ok, so... WOW! No, seriously, this is rather amazing. It has completely removed most of my pain, leaving only a the deep pain in my hip. Verrry nice. I applied it last night around 8pm, and the pain is still much reduced. Very nice indeed.

About 45 minutes at 15psi, then slowly turning the heat down over 15 minutes before turning off completely.
The lid vacuum sealed and the jar sat on the counter until it cooled down.
I used a garlic press to get the oil from the root insides for the initial test.
Today I used a wheat grass, hand-crank juicer to press the rest of the roots.

Any suggestions on a simple, low waste method to filter out the root bits? I was thinking cheesecloth, but it would absorb too much oil?
I wonder if a rosin press would work to extract the compounds?
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I wonder if a rosin press would work to extract the compounds?
Interesting thought. I don't know enough about them to know if they can be simply squeezed out. I do know the wheat grass juicer did an ok job, with a lot less effort than the garlic press. lol It's a cheap juicer too, so I can imagine a better one doing a better job.

The roots were surprisingly easy to chop through with large scissors, after they had been frozen for a week with a minimal amount of water in them.
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cheeze cloth works well....wring out or use potato ricer to squeeze. When I make balm, after wringing out, I heat up water in tea kettle and pour water on bundle for a 2nd extraction.

isn't other plant material more beneficial, less work?

whatever workz...right?
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Old 02-20-2019, 04:25 PM #24
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cheeze cloth works well....wring out or use potato ricer to squeeze. When I make balm, after wringing out, I heat up water in tea kettle and pour water on bundle for a 2nd extraction.

isn't other plant material more beneficial, less work?

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The hot water wash works, but then I have to separate the oil/water. Thanks though. Pressing is definitely one of the best ways so far.

No, the plant material has THC and CBD in it, which will trigger a fail on drug tests. The compounds in the roots work on pain and inflammation without them. I can ship it anywhere in the world.
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The THC level in topical products tends to be far lower than that in smokable or edible products. The fact that applying a topical to the skin only allows it to break the skin/muscular barrier. Lotions, balms and salves don't enter the bloodstream, and therefore do not show up on standard drug tests.

I've made salve/balm with older bud material having arthritis issues...unless you eat it, it won't show up. From personal experience, several urine drug screens showed negative for THC from using balms several times a day.

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A lot of people won't take the risk, and I believe it really depends on how you make it. I guess I could make a pure topical, but historically all my oils have been the penetrating kind.

And again, I'm completely un-restricted on shipping when it's made with root material only.
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Funny, the clients I have...most between 65-90 don't care if there is thc....I do advise them of the risk, however. Comfort and less pain is what they shoot for.

In fact, talked to a 90 y.o. client about roots....she thought root extraction was too laborious....have to agree.

To each their own....it's good to know ALL parts of the cannabis plant are redeemable in some form or fashion. (I sound old!!) ;o)
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I guess I could make a pure topical, but historically all my oils have been the penetrating kind.
Would you mind sharing how that you make it? Do you add MSM and/or DMSO for better penetration?
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Ok you all....I finished trimming and preening seeds and have 5 containers w/ root balls....they usually go in compost outside. I washed roots in dish pan. Can I decarb and wrap in cheese cloth like I do when I make salve....same process, low heat in crock pot...organic coconut oil and water????

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Ok you all....I finished trimming and preening seeds and have 5 containers w/ root balls....they usually go in compost outside. I washed roots in dish pan. Can I decarb and wrap in cheese cloth like I do when I make salve....same process, low heat in crock pot...organic coconut oil and water????

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I generally dry them on newspaper for a few days then cover in organic coconut oil in a croc pot on low for 12-24 hours. Strain after.

Though your cheese cloth idea sounds better. Also if you want to add water anyway, I don't see a need to dry them.
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