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Old 10-06-2004, 07:32 PM #11
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Interesting Caprichoso, thanks for your input...I don't have any of the Cannabis literature and I do most of my research in the forums and on the net. I found some information on OG, but needless to say its all conflicting.
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Here is a pic I found of what I'm talking about in revegetated plants. This girl was a small bud cloned just before harvest and is now full of circular leaves from being back on 24 hour light. If you look just to the left of the remains of the bud, you can make out half a leaf that is almost a full circle. This is what I thought whorled phylotaxy was



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Old 10-06-2004, 10:33 PM #13
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Hi Caprichoso, I understand what you are saying. This is a little difficult to explain. Start from the basics:

Definition of whorled phyllotaxy from the Oxford English Dictionary

"a set of leaves, flowers, or branches springing from the stem at the same level and encircling it."

I apply this to my plant as cannabis normally has two sets of leaves. This one has three..."springing from the stem at the same level and encircling it". Which I read as a set of leaves at each node, thus on the same level, which surround the stem 360° thus encircling it.

I've never revegged a plant, so have no idea what to expect. From what I've gathered from your picture the leaves curl under on themslves, forming a sort of cylinder? In this case the term IMO isn't applicable. What your leaves are doing is a result of stress, and not a genetic mutation, which as I understand is exactly what whorled phyllotaxy is.

I would love to hear from some other gurus here on the subject!
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Cool, thanks for the info. I should probably stick my head out of the marijuana world at least once or twice. Someday.
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Old 10-07-2004, 12:34 AM #15
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welcome guys...have a nice day!
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Old 10-08-2004, 10:50 PM #17
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Thumbs up Jorge may be right in many cases but...

This growing variation is not a mutation in my opinion. Since it happens usually the same way it seems odd to me that it is a random mutation. Some say they are polyploids with duplicate sets of chromasomes and some say that plants with double or triple sets of chromosomes are super. Ya know there are really no absolutes in life?

I have had triples as I call them that stayed very vigorous through flowering and the trait made the plant more compact with a great yield. I don't say this is usually the case but any plant that seems to grow well is worth checking out before chucking anyways.

This isn't a trait I breed for or try to eliminate but my strains do it a lot. Perhaps it is a genetic defect in the bubblegum used in everything I have or perhaps it is just a sign of the growers good karma. I say, "don't believe me but see for yourself".

They can be just fine... BOG
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Thanks BOG, your input is much appreciated . I also agree it can't be a random phenomenon. It happens too often. Mine was curiosity, the little baby intrigued me and I thought to find out more about her. It interested me that information was so contradictory. My plant is so pretty I assure you, I wouldn't dream of chucking her out, on the contrary, she's been babied .
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always neat seeing these plants
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They are whorled phyllotaxy, I made a cross of a male Whorled Phyllotaxy, which I seem to find more of, and a female Whorled Phyllotaxy and got no whorled offspring.
I like the way they look. Do people see more males or females with this?
I kept several females around they are still whorled.
I would like to see ones that had whorled Tri stems on not only off the main stalk, like is common, but also then again on the sets of branches off the first tri stems, and again from the 2nd that are on the first. So it is tri whorled on tri whorled on tri whorled branches. Never seen it, I have seen a few tri seconday branches just a few.

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