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Old 10-04-2004, 09:29 PM #1
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Hi fellow growers,

I have just recently started a grow with a few untested strains. Among these I have VeryBerry (Blueberry x Strawberry) from Green Hornet Seeds. They are two days old today. I planted three, all of which germed with some strange kinks, two of which have seemingly begun a normal growth pattern. The third is clearly a whorled phyllotaxy. Below is a pic of her yesterday just germed. Tomorrow I'll take another pic, but she has quite a different aspect today, three well defined leaves and three dicotiledons. Here she is:


I'd like to ask some of you more knowledgable growers and breeders more information regarding this "mutation". First off...is it desirable? I've read threads here and there, some of which claim yes, some claim no, some people say the male/female ratio is heavy on the male side, some say its a characteristic which makes for excellent breeding, others stating they are heavily prone to hermies, others saying they are difficult to grow to maturity.

Can you guys help me out? When you didn't take marijuana botany 101 in college and have limited knowledge of the whole genetics deal all this conflicting info can get your head spinning.

Thanks for the help all!
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i think the three leaver is called a "Tri-foliate", and i think its neither a good, nor bad hing, just like when sum1 is born with an extra toe or finger.
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I have had a couple trifoilates among different strains, all ended up female. One ended up topping itself, the other was very stretchy. In my opinion it's just a mutation and has no effect, either way, on any other characteristics of the plant. On the plus side they are really cool looking in early growth.

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I have one

I have a sour bubble that puts 3 stems out at every node.Its 6 weeks into flower now.If you look close you can see it.I also grew a couple nl #5 x blue berry plants that had leaf mut. but never hurt growth.Thay just had wavy leaves kinda twisted.
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Thanks for the input guys! Okie that Sour Bubble is awesome...but I've probably already told you that!

Here's a pic of my baby, three days old today...I must say she is looking quite gorgeous...

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Very nice BV! Here's my MiniKush tri in early veg:



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they are sweet when they're little aren't they? Looks like anything but marijuana . Thanks for sharing KRS
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Here you go wickyd:

https://www.greenhornet.ch/

Please note that Green Hornet has already put up for sale their seeds, but some strains are still undergoing testing. This is true for both the Cash Cropper and the VeryBerry, for which Cannaddicto and I are doing testing (with relative threads). I couldn't tell you whether the other strains on their website have already been through testing or not.
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Whorled phylotaxy is mostly an aspect of revegetating plants from what I have seen. After the initial stage of new growth, the smooth single blade leaves, normal single blade serrated MJ leaves emerge. When these grow out and progress to three bladed leaves, they begin to show lots of the whoroled phenomenom. I think it has something to do with the transition to full veg growth since most leaves are growing out with trichomes on them.

George Cervantes claims trifoliates are genetically weak leading to less yields and loss of potency. Read that in his book while in Borders the other day.....

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