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Old 05-13-2017, 08:04 PM #21
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The point is what about genetics you don't plan on using for let's say...a year? For instance I've kept a cut of pre 98 Bubba among others for 11 years alive in the form of a mom. Sure I would take another clone of her every so often when she wasn't looking good for another copy of her. There were times when I didn't flower her for close to a year but I still wanted her around. Can you keep a clone in the fridge for a year? There were no dispensaries to get them from again, there were no friends to get them from, there were no friends to hold them for me, there was simply no other option. I've been doing this for over 15 years so let's not talk about experience please.

I'm curious what you do in that situation?
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Just my .02 worth dont want to start issues with any mastergrowers lol.

I'll run clones from clones without issue in most cases but i did have issue doing this with a favorite Cherry Pie i had yrs ago after third yr makeing clones from clones and getting killer purpley seedless tastey fire my cuts started to have herm issue. Imo cloneing from clones is cool but somewhere around ten generations you may start seeing issues.

I keep a few bonsai moms on strain i like nowadays.

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i take at least 2 good copies of everything i put in flower...like backing up your files...DJXX
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Old 05-13-2017, 08:32 PM #24
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...I'm curious what you do in that situation?
That being the exception rather than the norm, one could easily Bonzai the plant in a rootbound container for a while (1-2 gallon size)--then snip the top and start over again after 6 months or so (dedicating about 1 sq foot of space).

Of course, about a month or so before her hibernation is over, I would transplant the plant to much larger container (5-7 gallon size) and anticipate having a jumbo harvest of cuttings when to choose from.

But that's just me and that's just the way I would do it. LOL, its like asking a mathematician, "how many ways are there to add or subtract two numbers and have the product equal 100?".

And he answers, "as many as you want".
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Old 05-13-2017, 09:11 PM #25
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Since you are new and asking questions like this, it tells me you are thinking.. Never be afraid to try something regardless of how unorthodox it may seem.

Your suspicions have paid off in this case, as many growers including myself do not keep mothers, rather, I clone my veg plants just before I throw em into bloom.. Its a rotation.. The clones will be vegged and prepared for bloom and before they go into bloom, cuts are taken from the plants... Voila! No moms . I also take backup clones and store them in the fridge for up to a month, and they will root faster out of the fridge after some time.

Someone will inevitably come in here talking about genetic drift and what not but in the last ten years its never been an issue..
How do you store them in the fridge?
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How do you store them in the fridge?
You take your clones, put them in zip lock bag with about a tablespoon of water or so and put them in the fridge. Position the bag so the ends of the cuttings stay moist or somewhat submerged.

You can keep them there for a month or so, ive gone longer but I dont recommend it.

Just make a new cut when you use your rooting powder or cloning gel.

Its called keeping cuts in stasis... and its a pretty effective technique for managing clones, or even mailing them and even then they dont have to be cold..
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You take your clones, put them in zip lock bag with about a tablespoon of water or so and put them in the fridge. Position the bag so the ends of the cuttings stay moist or somewhat submerged.

You can keep them there for a month or so, ive gone longer but I dont recommend it.

Just make a new cut when you use your rooting powder or cloning gel.

Its called keeping cuts in stasis... and its a pretty effective technique for managing clones, or even mailing them and even then they dont have to be cold..
I think you don't need the extra water in the zip lock bags. If they are fresh they only have to be sealed from air exchange so they can't dry out.
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I think you don't need the extra water in the zip lock bags. If they are fresh they only have to be sealed from air exchange so they can't dry out.
Ive never tried it without water to be honest so I dont know. When I mail clones, I just wrap the bottom of the stem with a damp paper towel, never had an issue..

The cold temps from fridge would immediately cause transpiration to come to a grinding halt, so perhaps they wouldnt draw air into the stems even without water.

Ill certainly try your idea to find out though, because water in the bags after a month can get pretty cloudy depending on how clean the cuts were taken and put into stasis.
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Good to know about the fridge stasis process.

As I root cuttings in plain water, I often wonder
if some growers put fresh cuttings in plain water
to hold them, so to speak.

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I got backed up on cuttings a few years ago with 2 trays (about 50 each) that just sat in tap water for about 2 weeks. Most sprouted roots by the time I was able to work em.
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