Appreciate the inputs.
My standard MO is to throw them under the HPS, with the HPS at least 4-5 feet away. I give it a couple hours at that height and then, over the next 12-14 hours, I slowly lower the light.
This time I started with some seriously fugly clones and was only able to put the light 3' away. lol I put in a fluoro and have been turning the main light on for a few hours then giving them a break for a couple hours. Must be ok, I only burned a few leaves a bit.
These fugly clones were under a whopping 30 watts of screw-in leds. Not too shabby for a 1k hps change. lol