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Andrenochrome - Truth or Lies?

Gypsy Nirvana

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- Wow! - there are some wild and crazy conspiracy theories out there - one that I have noticed gathering steam lately is the Andrenechrome Conspiracy - whereby all of these top 'elites' are allegedly taking an extract from the pineal gland of sacrificed children -

- Yes - it does sound beyond belief - but sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction - who really knows?

- Anyway - lets have a look and see if there is anything to this conspiracy - and I'll start with an article from 'Wired' magazine -

The Dark Virality of a Hollywood Blood-Harvesting Conspiracy
A centuries-old anti-Semitic myth is spreading freely on far-right corners of social media—suggesting a new digital Dark Age has arrived.


- THE DARK AGES were rife with plague, fanaticism, and accusations that Jews secretly fed off the blood of children. In 2020, we too are beset with plague, rampant medical misinformation, and a persistent rumor that “global elites” torture children to harvest the chemical adrenochrome from their blood, which they then inject in order to stay healthy and young.

- A favorite topic of interconnected QAnon and Pizzagate conspiracy communities, so-called “adrenochrome harvesting” long predates these groups. It has, however, resurrected during the Covid-19 pandemic. Google Trends shows significant spikes in searches for adrenochrome in March and June of 2020. It’s prevalent on TikTok, Youtube, and Instagram. Reddit removed a dedicated adrenochrome subreddit on July 30. On Friday, July 31, conspiracy theorists plan to hold the first “Child Lives Matter” protest in Hollywood to “expose” child trafficking, advertising the event with references to #adrenochrome.

- The adrenochrome harvesting conspiracy theory is a potent example of “hidden virality” and the ways in which unpopular culture animate social media platforms outside of the mainstream view. Named by researchers Britt Parris and Joan Donovan, hidden virality describes dominant content in specific pockets of the internet that are largely unseen by journalists and mass audiences, making them difficult for social media companies to identify and act upon. The impact of hidden virality can’t be stopped by retroactively banning a few thousand Twitter accounts; it is an iterative, memetic phenomenon that outpaces terms of service. Even with early intervention by Reddit and recent movements by Twitter, Facebook and TikTok to crack down on QAnon, adrenochrome harvesting remains a mainstream conversation for some online communities.

- Toxic social attitudes spread virally alongside hoaxes and disinformation. Adrenochrome harvesting isn’t outwardly blamed on Jews, but on “satanic” and “globalist” elites—dog whistle terms for the far right. The modern adrenochrome obsession is a permutation of blood libel, an anti-Semitic myth that pervaded Europe throughout the middle ages, and a mutated strain of medical misinformation.

The Lineage of a New Blood Libel.

The most effective conspiracy theories are built around kernels of truth. Adrenochrome is a compound that occurs in the body, but about which little scientific research has been done beyond a few studies in the mid-20th century on whether it could play a role in schizophrenia. The question transfixed the writers Aldous Huxley and Hunter S. Thompson, who were obsessed with mind-altering substances. To them, adrenochrome became a psychotropic, akin to mescaline. In his famous Doors of Perception, written just after the first adrenochrome studies, Huxley described adrenochrome as a clue that was “being systematically followed.” “The sleuths—biochemists, psychiatrists, psychologists—are on the trail,” he wrote. Biologists didn’t find much of interest.

- Nearly 20 years later, Thompson cast adrenochrome as a psychedelic that must be violently extracted from human glands in his novel Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. The scene was immortalized in Terry Gilliam’s 1998 film; a YouTube clip of Johnny Depp’s character taking adrenochrome, which to date has more than 1.7 million views, has drawn thousands of comments referencing the conspiracy.

- Thompson is explicitly invoked in what seems to be the earliest recorded posts about adrenochrome harvesting on 4Chan’s /x/ and /pol/ boards, in 2013 and 2014 respectively. In an anti-Semitic 4chan /pol/ thread an anonymous poster linked a restricted, unsearchable video named “Jew Ritual BLOOD LIBEL Sacrifice is #ADRENOCHROME Harvesting.” Within these same online communities, Pizzagate formalized and grew in 2015–2016 before spreading to more mainstream social media.

- In 2016 this same video was shared in a Pizzagate thread about the artist Marina Abromovich and her “spirit cooking” ceremonies. The next several months saw increasingly outlandish claims online, particularly that the Pixar film Monsters Inc. was a cryptic reference to adrenochrome harvesting. As some Pizzagate adherents entered the burgeoning QAnon community in 2017, they brought the adrenochrome conspiracy with them.

- These factions expanded their audiences in 2018, citing new “investigations” and circulating the rumor that a (hoax) website sold adrenochrome in exchange for cryptocurrency. Conspiracy filmmaker Jay Myers released a video, “Adrenochrome The Elite's Secret Super Drug!” While the original video was taken down, it remains live on his backup channel and has been uploaded elsewhere online.

In February 2019, Infowars featured a segment on adrenochrome, linking it to the Clinton Foundation via epipen manufacturers, and to the highly controversial “young blood” transfusion startup Ambrosia. A month later, adrenochrome “documentaries” began to emerge on YouTube, followed by many smaller copycat productions, helping form a searchable foundation for the current day conspiracy.

- The recent surge in interest can be traced to March 2020 and the effects of the Covid-19 pandemic. Celebrities posting photos of themselves stuck at home and looking less than camera ready were besieged on social media with accusations that they were suffering from adrenochrome withdrawal. (In their logic, shutdowns had stalled the adrenochrome child-trafficking supply chain.) By commenting on these posts, believers spread the adrenochrome hashtag to new eyes while harassing their targets.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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- I typed Andrenechrome into google - went to images - and got this -

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- Despite this increased visibility, conspiracy outlets accused major social media platforms and media of plotting to suppress the truth about adrenochrome. Adrenochrome conversation continued and intensified on social media, from claims Lady Gaga was participating in blood rituals for an adrenochrome fix, to the Covid-19 “spiked adrenochrome’ theory popularized by Pizzagate booster Liz Crokin. Despite claims of censorship, Google trend results showed that spamming celebrities' pages with mentions of adrenochrome was working, leading to a spike in search traffic and social media conversation.

How Hidden Virality Happens.

Unpopular ideas and small disinformation campaigns often go unreported, either unseen or ignored by platforms and mainstream press. The longer an infectiously bad idea goes undetected and undebunked, the more likely it is to spread and develop social importance. This phenomenon has enabled the rapid growth of antivax communities, Covid-19 disinformation, and the prevalence of the adrenochrome harvesting theory.

- This is all possible because of how social media and search engines work. As a result of the relative unimportance of adrenochrome, it doesn’t get written about much by scientists, journalists, or academics. This creates a data void, a vacuum of trustworthy information unpopulated by authoritative sources. Within a data void, search algorithms surface what's available rather than well-curated local, timely, and relevant content. This is the perfect condition for a viral infection of misinformation and conspiracism.

- A Google search for “adrenochrome” prompts a knowledge panel, an automatically generated information box sourced from Wikipedia, with a description of the compound and some scholarly research. However, the edit history of that Wikipedia article reveals that in the last few months editors have constantly been removing attempts to add disinformation. On Google Images, viewers are faced with an onslaught of infographics about missing children, doctored images of celebrities and politicians, and instructions for how to find further troves of “evidence.” DuckDuckGo and other search engines return even more outrageous findings in initial search results.

- Pizzagate, QAnon, and other online conspiracy communities encourage newcomers to “Google” an obscure phrase designed to lead down a rabbit hole. This takes them to obscure, debunked publications or reports, as well as carefully curated collections of PDFs. Elements of real science are merged into factually incoherent frames, resulting in troves of documentation, hard to find in the mainstream search engines. These are foundations of sustaining the hidden virality of otherwise baseless ideas. Whittled down to memes and viral slogans, the new conspiracies spread effortlessly across platforms via hashtags and comments.

Why Is Adrenochrome Having a Moment and What Can Be Done?

The pandemic has created an unprecedented level of mistrust and anxiety about inequality, which opens society to all kinds of conspiratorial thinking, and especially to medical misinformation. As interest in adrenochrome was first spiking in March, people were upset that celebrities and athletes seemed to have access to testing that others did not. Attitudes to proposed Covid-19 treatments quickly became politically polarized, as did a rise in mainstream conservative acknowledgement of QAnon and a slew of Republican candidates signaling their attachment to the movement. Articles in conservative publications, like this Spectator takedown by Ben Sixsmith, are a critical intervention to halt the progress of conspiracists operating largely unchecked in ideological echo chambers.

- The best way for platforms to fight back is to take early action when something begins to go viral in hidden spaces. Early detection requires knowledge of where conspiracy theories originate online and reliable measurements of how they scale, and it needs to be followed by active promotion of authoritative content that can inoculate against the disinformation. Tech companies must also get better at indexing images and memes. Platforms need to identify disinformation within obscure medical topics that don't have much information, and seek collaborations with experts who could get ahead of these trends with timely relevant information.

- The adrenochrome obsession shows just how hard it is to combat data voids. Would a peer-reviewed study on andrenochrome’s inability to reanimate aging global elites even impact the communities that spread these complex falsehoods? Probably not. To date, Pinterest has taken the most aggressive action against the adrenochrome hashtag, directing users to a page about medical misinformation when they search for the word in an effort to curb hidden virality.

- And as tech companies commit to eradicating hate speech and medical misinformation on their platforms, they must recognize the bigotry laundered through modern conspiracy. During Thursday’s House Antitrust Subcommittee hearing with big tech CEOs, thousands of commenters left QAnon slogans, and even some references to adrenochrome, in the chat of Fox News’ livestream. The popularity of adrenochrome harvesting theories shows how motivated actors remain two steps ahead of intervention, and how our information systems, if uncorrected, may accelerate the arrival of a new dark age.

Updated 8/2/2020 9:30pm: A previous version of this article stated the adrenochrome conspiracy was prevalent on Reddit. On July 30, Reddit banned a subreddit on adrenochrome.

https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-the-dark-virality-of-a-hollywood-blood-harvesting-conspiracy/
 

armedoldhippy

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remember Uncle Duke & Zonker Harris riding around in "Doonesbury"? Duke is sniffing some drug, and Zonk asks him "what is that?" Duke says "it is an extract from the pineal gland of male adolescent marine iguanas..." Zonk stares at him and asks "whatever happened to pot?" and Duke replies "beats me. i can't even get arrested for it these days...":woohoo:
 

CosmicGiggle

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...... the arrival of a new dark age......

:laughing: this is what I took away from the article. :laughing:

Adrenochrome is totally and completely irrelevent, it's not gonna help in any way, we seem to be in a bad recession, depression on the way, global warming, money running out, I could go on!!!

..... we need something much stronger than Adrenochrome.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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- Yeah - maybe we need the Adrenochrome 10X concentrate? - but I'm not about to turn into 'The Childcatcher' from 'Chitty-Chitty Bang-Bang' - to get it - lol

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:laughing: this is what I took away from the article. :laughing:

Adrenochrome is totally and completely irrelevent, it's not gonna help in any way, we seem to be in a bad recession, depression on the way, global warming, money running out, I could go on!!!

..... we need something much stronger than Adrenochrome.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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In popular culture.

In his 1954 book The Doors of Perception, Aldous Huxley mentioned the discovery and the alleged effects of adrenochrome which he likened to the symptoms of mescaline intoxication, although he had never consumed it.

Anthony Burgess mentions adrenochrome at the beginning of his 1962 novel A Clockwork Orange. The protagonist (Alex) and his friends are drinking drug-laced milk: "They had no license for selling liquor, but there was no law yet against prodding some of the new veshches which they used to put into the old moloko, so you could peet it with vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom or one or two other veshches [...]"

Hunter S. Thompson mentioned adrenochrome in his 1971 book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

The adrenochrome scene also appears in the novel's film adaptation. In the DVD commentary, director Terry Gilliam admits that his and Thompson's portrayal is a fictional exaggeration. Gilliam insists that the drug is entirely fictional and seems unaware of the existence of a substance with the same name. Hunter S. Thompson also mentions adrenochrome in his book Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72. In the footnotes in chapter April, page 140 he says, "It was sometime after midnight in a ratty hotel room and my memory of the conversation is haze, due to massive ingestion of booze, fatback, and forty cc's of adrenochrome."

The harvesting of an adrenal gland from a live victim to obtain adrenochrome for drug abuse is a plot feature in the first episode of the television series Lewis (2008).

Adrenochrome is a component of several conspiracy theories such as QAnon and the Pizzagate conspiracy theory.

*from Wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenochrome
 
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Well plain Salvia leaves aren't much...but the 100x extract was great(ish).

Its been a while since I tried to study it, but I seem to recall the consensus was that it didn't really work and was just famous due to being referred to in fear and loathing.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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- Looks to be a much larger fish than a red herring - more like a red barracuda of a conspiracy - interesting though - I'll say that - whoever came up with it MUST HAVE BEEN TRIPPING!

Chemistry

In vivo, adrenochrome is synthesized by the oxidation of epinephrine. In vitro, silver oxide (Ag2O) is used as an oxidizing agent. In solution, adenochrome is pink and further oxidation of the compound causes it to polymerize into brown or black melanin compounds.

* oxidation - polymerizes into black or brown melanin compounds -

- interest was renewed by the discovery that adrenochrome may be produced normally as an intermediate in the formation of neuromelanin.

Neuromelanin (NM) is a dark pigment found in the brain which is structurally related to melanin. It is a polymer of 5,6-dihydroxyindole monomers. Neuromelanin is found in large quantities in catecholaminergic cells of the substantia nigra pars compacta and locus coeruleus, giving a dark color to the structures.


adrenochrome is a massive red herring.

i think "pineal gland extract" would be melatonin and dmt (if the dmt pineal gland hypothesis is correct, which hasn't been proven afaik). and i'm pretty sure thompson said the fear and loathing portrayal was hyperbole, and the 'pineal gland' thing was fictional liberty.

https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=51847

https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=51847
 

White Beard

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Erowid has a pretty thorough take-down of the ‘adrenochrome’ bit...I’ll try to find a link, but don’t wait for me: you’re already on the net....

This recalls to mind the fad among the US moneyed class 100 years ago - “rejuvenation treatments” in Mexico, involving “monkey glands”. The story itself may be false, but a reference to it shows up in a song lyric in the first Marx brothers movie, ‘Coconuts’, so it was at least anecdotal at the time.
 

Brother Nature

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Edwardo Downing would know, good luck getting a copy of that book though, especially if you don't read Spanish. Hunter S Thompson just made that shit up on Fear and Loathing.
 

Chi13

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In popular culture.

In his 1954 book The Doors of Perception, Aldous Huxley mentioned the discovery and the alleged effects of adrenochrome which he likened to the symptoms of mescaline intoxication, although he had never consumed it.

Anthony Burgess mentions adrenochrome at the beginning of his 1962 novel A Clockwork Orange. The protagonist (Alex) and his friends are drinking drug-laced milk: "They had no license for selling liquor, but there was no law yet against prodding some of the new veshches which they used to put into the old moloko, so you could peet it with vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom or one or two other veshches [...]"

Hunter S. Thompson mentioned adrenochrome in his 1971 book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

The adrenochrome scene also appears in the novel's film adaptation. In the DVD commentary, director Terry Gilliam admits that his and Thompson's portrayal is a fictional exaggeration. Gilliam insists that the drug is entirely fictional and seems unaware of the existence of a substance with the same name. Hunter S. Thompson also mentions adrenochrome in his book Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72. In the footnotes in chapter April, page 140 he says, "It was sometime after midnight in a ratty hotel room and my memory of the conversation is haze, due to massive ingestion of booze, fatback, and forty cc's of adrenochrome."

The harvesting of an adrenal gland from a live victim to obtain adrenochrome for drug abuse is a plot feature in the first episode of the television series Lewis (2008).

Adrenochrome is a component of several conspiracy theories such as QAnon and the Pizzagate conspiracy theory.

*from Wiki - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenochrome
Three great books there. Must read them again!

I think this adrenochrome stuff is likely bullshit though.
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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Erowid has a pretty thorough take-down of the ‘adrenochrome’ bit...I’ll try to find a link, but don’t wait for me: you’re already on the net....

This recalls to mind the fad among the US moneyed class 100 years ago - “rejuvenation treatments” in Mexico, involving “monkey glands”. The story itself may be false, but a reference to it shows up in a song lyric in the first Marx brothers movie, ‘Coconuts’, so it was at least anecdotal at the time.

Yes - there has been plenty of interest in the past with 'Elixir's of Youth' - and/or 'Elixir's of Life' - even the mythical vampires got to live forever - these days its a science to try and get humans to live longer -

Of mice and old men: is the elixir of youth finally coming of age?
American scientists have coined the term ‘senolytics’ to describe a new class of drugs designed to delay the ageing process by clearing out doddery cells -


https://www.theguardian.com/science...-is-the-elixir-of-youth-finally-coming-of-age

Edwardo Downing would know, good luck getting a copy of that book though, especially if you don't read Spanish. Hunter S Thompson just made that shit up on Fear and Loathing.

- Eduardo Hidalgo Downing - Hmmm - now can I get his book in English?
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Three great books there. Must read them again!

I think this adrenochrome stuff is likely bullshit though.

- Yeah classic books for sure -
- so much has been written about it - which can make one think that their might be something to it -
 

Cvh

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There was a movie created about the subject.
It's called 'I come in peace (Dark Angel)' from the year 1990.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Come_in_Peace

It involved aliens coming to earth to 'harvest' the humans.

First they would pump their victim full off a drug (heroin I thought) directly into the heart and then afterwards the victim got 'extracted' through their forehead.

Here is short clip from the film

[YOUTUBEIF]3P41KeVVepc[/YOUTUBEIF]
https://youtu.be/3P41KeVVepc
 

Gypsy Nirvana

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- All about extracting bodily fluids from humans again - then using them to increase power/strength/youth - looks to be quite a fascination (Vampires etc) - although humans are already keen on exchanging bodily fluids sexually - or I wouldn't be here typing this - lol

- This Adrenochrome Conspiracy ties itself in with all these cases of missing children -:

- ''According to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, roughly 800,000 children are reported missing each year in the United States -- that's roughly 2,000 per day. Of those, there are 115 child "stranger abduction" cases each year, which means the child was taken by an unknown person.''

https://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-c...he National Center,taken by an unknown person.

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There was a movie created about the subject.
It's called 'I come in peace (Dark Angel)' from the year 1990.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Come_in_Peace

It involved aliens coming to earth to 'harvest' the humans.

First they would pump their victim full off a drug (heroin I thought) directly into the heart and then afterwards the victim got 'extracted' through their forehead.

Here is short clip from the film

[YOUTUBEIF]3P41KeVVepc[/YOUTUBEIF]
https://youtu.be/3P41KeVVepc
 
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Amynamous

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I suppose it explains why trump and friends were separating immigrant children from their parents and placing them in cages with hundreds never being reunited.
hmmm......
 

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