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Cloning with JJScorpio

DigiWeed

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Thanks JJ, I was hoping to use it as I have it already, but will get a better one rather than change it at a later date as the box is still under construction.
Better to get as much right as I can first time round.
Thanks again.
 

JJScorpio

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You should be able to buy a 40 watt, 2 foot floro fixture for about twenty dollars or less. If not, buy a cheap bathroom three bulb track light and buy a pack of 23 watt bulbs......
 
how can i tell when its ready to cut? how long from seed is usually the minimum amount of time u should wait on average? i kno it depends on strain, but on average.
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JJScorpio

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Once you have alternating nodes you should have enough there to do cutting. Remember it needs to be a branch with another branch coming off it.....
 
ok that definetly answers my question, thanksalot. :joint:
about how long from the very top to the cut should u make it? if u see it alternating a couple times already but its about 2-3 inches long is that ok?
 
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Hey JJ,

I followed your thread very closely and for a long time now. I took my first clones off of SEnsi Star moms 3 weeks ago and used your directions, but rockwool instead of RR. I took 5 cuttings and 4 rooted, last died. They are small but look gorgeus! Thank you.

They are showing a lil yellowing or light greenish, big roots now... should they be fertilized a bit?
 

JJScorpio

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They can take the same fertilizer regiment that the mother was given once they have a good ball of roots. Give them a half dose to start. Good to hear the thread helped you.....
 
JJ: Helped? No seriously, me and cloning...... i didnt know asshole from elbow until i came across this beauty. LOL

JJ: Update 2-18-2008

didnt want to use up another reply.... all is looking good, clones are growing in cups now... new growth is good and hearty.

Thank you so much!
 
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minds_I

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Hello all,

With all things being equal do seedlings develope faster then rooted clones?

I ask because it seems as if the clones I start (from bubble cloner no hormones) do not seem to develope as quickly and are indeed stunted.

Grower error or do seedling plants just grow faster?

Just for clearity, I am organic.

I start my already rooted clones in mix of spent (previously used) soil same as seedling in 14-16 ounce beer cups.

I transplant into fresh organic soil (ffof/ewc/perlite/d.lime) when rootbound (two/three weeks) in one gallon pots.

They are under 150~watts of 6400K cfls.

Again, is there faster growth associated with seedling plants that is absent in clones?

Thanks,

minds_I
 

JJScorpio

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I find that seedplants grow faster than clones. I would guess its because clones are already a full grown plant and they don't get the burst that seedplants do when they are young.....
 
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Youre findings are accurate JJScorpio. The only reason I usually grow from seed is that its the only way to realize hybrid growth.

I have a cloning question and I hope you might be able to offer some general thoughts.

I tried some femmed seed outside last year and was pleased with the results. I want to clone some of those plants this year but I cant help but wonder, Do you think the 24 hrs of light during the cloning process, and then a normal light period during root development and then out the door for some hardening off will increase the tendency for the clone to hermie?
 

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You dont have to leave the clones on 24 hour light. I keep my indoor mothers on 24/0 light but when I cut the clones they go to 16/8 light/dark so they dont flower when I put them outside. I've had good luck with that......
 
Hey JJ:
My Sensi Star clones are looking great at 30 days! However two of them have started to flower while under 18/6 CFL in my veg box. 13,000 Lumens/ 8 x 23Watts. I have kept a good wet dry cycle and gave them a small dose of Grow Big (Fox Farm). They are close to light and very well ventilated with a 120mm pc fan average of 75F daytime. 67F Night.

What would be causing this auto-flowering?

Also.... I know clones veg slowly but is there any way i can speed them up a lil?Any tips? They are good color, no burn or over Nitro'd.... They just are really slow!
 

JJScorpio

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They may start to flower but they probably won't go into full flower. I take it what you're seeing is a small bud forming with pistils? This usually happens with most mature plants. Thats why I keep my mothers on 24/0.

If you want them to grow faster they will need more light. The floros will sustain them but thats not a lot of light for fast vegging.....
 
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Do you need some type of nute for them to start rooting in the rapid rooters?
If so would Dip-n-grow work?
 

JJScorpio

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No nutes are necessary. They can't feed until they get roots. Your best bet is to use a rooting powder with fungicide......
 

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I think its all the same stuff basically, you can get it at wally world, home de-pot, or pretty much any garden center with a good selection of plant junk on the shelves.
 

JJScorpio

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I use the rootone with fungicide. If you're in the states you can get it at Lowes, WalMarts or about any gardening shop........
 
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