400W Female Seeds Grapefruit

Once more its time for a new grow diary. The bagseed are harvested and curing, and... mostly smoked lol. I thoroughly enjoyed every different phenotype, each had its own taste and high and was treat to smoke.

This time around I will be growing 2 Grapefruit plants from Female Seeds.

The setup for the moment is the same as for my last grow, but i will be definitely be getting a scrubber and therefore a bigger (and possibly/hopefully more silent) exhaust fan.

Medium:
BioBizz All Mix Soil (Peat Moss, Spaghnum peat, Worm Castings, Perlite, Pre-mix, EC: 2.4 , pH:6.2-6.6).
First in 1L pots for 2-3weeks, then 7L pots for remaining veg (2-3 more weeks), and finally in 15L pots for flowering.

Nutrients:
Canna range:
Terra Vega (NPK 14-6-17)
Terra Flores (10-9-19)
PK 13-14
Boost Accelerator
Bio Boost
Rhyzotonic
Cannazym

Lights:
For the first week, under the 200W envirolight (2700K), then straight under the 400W Grolux (cooltube)

Fans:
For the time being: RVK100 4" 175m3/h and i got a small 6" clip on to blow on tops. Intake is passive through louvers in the back of the cab. When Ill be getting the carbon scrubber i think i will need a bigger fan so i will probably get a 5" fan, maybe acoustic, to suck through the filter and the cooltube

Cabinet:
Robin from IKEA, 1m wide, 0.5m deep and 1.6m high


Here are some pics from the day they broke the soil until today:

One of the seeds popped out first, these pics are 1 day after it broke the ground:



The same day these pics were taken the other seed popped out of the soil, only this one seemed to have a problem, one of the cotyledon was albino, and so were the tiny leaves that were beggining to grow:



But in the end it turned out ok and nicely filled up with chlorophyll

These are from 3 days later, the bigger one one the left is 4 days old and the smaller ex-albino is 3days old:







Now here are some pics from today, I watered them with a bit of rhyzotonic yesterday. The bigger one is 7 days old and the smaller is 6 days old. From now on for simplicity today will be reffered to as day 7 for both plants


As usual, plenty of updates and pictures to come,

Welcome to my cabinet I hope you enjoy the show


Peace

lookin good tokabowl....this should be a fun one to watch
ive always wanted to grow some grapefruit

this is gonna be fun

late

Hey
Your plants look super heathly so far and great pic's too! I think you will enjoy the grapefruit, I have been thinking about popping a couple but no space right now.
Good luck with the grow!

Update

Update

Hey guys, thanks for poppin in

I havent been online for a while so the ladies have changed quite a bit.
They had 2 light feedings so far, and actually they seem to be quite nute sensitive... can anyone who's grown GF confirm this? I was planning on giving them a slightly stronger dose next time around but i wouldnt want to burn them...
Here are a couple of pics of them at 13 days into veg:








At day 16 (2 days ago) they got transplanted into the 7L pots, they both had nice healthy roots (not the best pics, but i was in a hurry because i did the error of not watering at all before the transplant so the soil was crumbling apart in my hands, lol)








Some tops after transplant:








A couple of hours after the transplant, both plants got a serious tie-down
Here are the latest pics, from yesterday:




























Neil, you've grown the GF before haven't you? What kind of stretch should i expect from it? Ive read it does have a tendency to stretch quite a lot... Would it double or rather triple in height after flippin the lights? (considering the LST... )
I'm thinking of giving them at least another 2 if not 3 weeks of veg for them to fill out the area nicely...

Thanks in advance for any input

Well, that's about it for now,

Peace

Yes i grew one out before. It was a while ago but as i remember i think it probably stretched nearly 3x in 12/12. I didn't train her at all. Training is very important with a sat indoor as it keeps in controllable but will increase your greatly too in my experience. Also you will find training helps as I seem to remember that she had trouble keeping buds skyward towards the end.
Sounds like you got a good plan, as long as you keep on top of the training as you flip to 12/12 you shouldn't have any problems.
I cant really remember nute wise, i will see if theres anything on here but have changed computers since so don't have anything here apart from a pic of her flowering.
I hope you don't mind me including a pic, if you want can always remove it!



Good luck with the grow, i will be watching patiently to see how they do!

Update 21 days veg

Update 21 days veg

Hey man thanks for that. Please don't remove the pic its beautiful. I'll be well chuffed if they turn out half as nice as that one!
I will definitely have to stay on top of the training, they are responding really well to the LST and have loved the transplant. One of them is getting a head start on the other, but they're both exploding with growth.

One slight problem, however, is that my ballast for the 400 watter has died on me... It started making a very load buzzing noise when it was supposed to turn on, and simply never turned on. I have no idea what couldve caused this (is it possible its just the lightbulb?). The 400 is plugged into a contractor timer (which still works fine, btw) so no overload is possible, and the ballast+bulb are only a couple of months old!
I believe there was a 1 year warranty so Ill have to hook that up.

In the meantime the plants are huddling under the 200W envirolight, and I'll add the 150w hps too if the ballast takes to long to get changed...

Here are some pics
















Both of them are now showing pre-flowers too, and luckily both are female!
The pre-flowers started showing at the 5th node about 19-20 days into veg.
I wasnt able to get a proper shot of them but you can get a clue here:














Peace

I know this may sound a bit simple. But i would unplug your ballast from the wall and try the bulb make sure you cant tighten it anymore. Check the wires to whilst your at it. I am sure you may have done this but its always solved my problems so far.
The plants are looking great anyway!

Tokabowl said:

They had 2 light feedings so far, and actually they seem to be quite nute sensitive... can anyone who's grown GF confirm this? I was planning on giving them a slightly stronger dose next time around but i wouldnt want to burn them...

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From my experience Grapefruit is a nute sensitive strain. I would bump up the feeding ec a little and add some Ca and Mg. She can triple in height in flower but the LST should keep them under control. If ya take care of her shell reward ya with some fat, juicy buds.

Update, 24 days of veg

Update, 24 days of veg

Hi Indophiliac thanks for the input. Im going to feed them tonight, think Ill go with 1/2 strength for this time. Lovely bud you got there by the way!

neilspotshop said:

I know this may sound a bit simple. But i would unplug your ballast from the wall and try the bulb make sure you cant tighten it anymore. Check the wires to whilst your at it. I am sure you may have done this but its always solved my problems so far.

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Cheers man The bulb was on as tight as it went, but i unscrewed and put it back in, turned it on and VOILA! So it worked until the next time it had to turn on (this evening) when it did the same thing all over again... So I unscrewed the bulb again, put it back in and now it works once more lol...
I checked the wires and they all seem ok (both the ballast and the cooltube were pre-wired when bought)...

Anyways, here are some pics from today:






















Peace

The plants are looking great they seem to be getting more sat looking as they mature but maybe its me hehe.
I don't know loads about ballasts but it sounds like it might be faulty? if its under warranty i would contact the people you got the light from and explain the problem. I am sure anyone who sells lights could probably sort it out really fast.
Nice Pic's

Well, I watered the ladies last night (1/2 strength nutes)... On waking up this morning, I decided to tie the big one down a bit more...

Guess what?

The whole top of the plant snapped off, the upper 4 nodes all with descent side branching starting to grow

I was actually thinking of topping them to slow down the vegging a bit, but not this much!! I must've lost at least a week of veg here, this really sucks.








Here's the other (untopped)



Oh well, just thought Id share this little mishap, lets just hope she recovers well...


Peace




Edit: Moral of the story = Don't LST after having watered the plants, the cells are full of water and much more fragile and prone to burst, making it very easy to snap a stem...

lookin good Tokabowl , i've my chair pulled up to watch you, .

Im about to start a new grow soon myself , moving out of my closet to a homebox and 600w didital , the smell was stinking my bedroom out last grow.

Tokabowl said:

The setup for the moment is the same as for my last grow, but i will be definitely be getting a scrubber and therefore a bigger (and possibly/hopefully more silent) exhaust fan.

Medium: Peace

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Have a look at my grow tent thread , 5" fan and filter 105 pounds str.

Hey Cobo thanks for popping in mate
Cheers for the info about the fan and scrubber too, that looks like a great offer. I was thinking of maybe getting an acoustic fan though:



Has anyone used one of these before? Are they really that much more silent than the RVK (100 in my case, 4") and worth the extra £?

cobo said:

the smell was stinking my bedroom out last grow.

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Hehe I know exactely what you mean, the small Vaportek unit didnt quite cut it for my stinky bagseed, and these GF are already starting to smell a fair bit too.

cobo said:

moving out of my closet to a homebox and 600w didital

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I was thinking of getting one of those homeboxes too after reading your thread but, in the end decided not to mainly for stealth reasons.

Good luck with your grow what genetics are you popping this time?




The GF are doing really well. The one that was topped by accident seems to have recovered ok. I also topped one or two of the stretchiest branches on each of the plants to limit height, and they have responded well to that too.

They are back under the 400W now, I received a replacement ballast (worth twice as much as the original one!) within 24 hours of calling the store, now that's some customer service!

Here are some pics from yesterday, they were a bit thirsty at that point hence the drooping leaves:



























I think I will transplant them into their final 15L pots and start flowering in a couple of days, the nodes are alternating and there are (female) preflowers on nearly every top too.
For the moment they have been fed only twice with 1/2 strength nutes (and full strength rhyzo and zym), and dont actually seem to be asking for much more...

Well thats about it for now,

Peace

Hey toka,

its looking great man, hurts to look at the picture of the snapped off top ....i feel your pain but they seem to be picking up quite well....nice pictures as well man. im growing in the exact same closet as you with some other modifications.......
keep on growin strong bro

one more thing toka, what distance is your light from the top of your plants?
cheers

Looking good! Nice and bushy i think these ladies are going to turn out super
Sounds like you did ok with the grow shop! do you mind mentioning who they are? they should get props for doing that anyways!
keep up the good work and get these ladies flowering i am dieing to see how they turn out!

34 Days of veg

34 Days of veg

Hey mrgrowmez
Good job with your cab! I really like what youve done, good idea to have that little clone box next to it too
The next thing im going to change in my cab is the intakes for fresh air. I feel i could have a lot more air coming in, and that will be even more needed once i get a bigger fan.

mrgrowmez said:

what distance is your light from the top of your plants?

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Usually the light (in the cooltube) is in between 20 and 30cm away from the tops. It depends on the temperatures i have in the cab, on a cold day I can have it 20cm away without any problems, but if its hotter 30cm is the closest i can get it without the temps getting out of hand...
This is thanks to the cooltube however, without one i believe you should keep a 400W about 40cm away from tops

On another note mrgrowmez, thank you very much for the pointer towards Supersci in the "What are you listening to" thread. Thats some seriously good sound Could you let me know of more swedish hiphop and the likes please? Ill be glad to point you to some of my favourite artists too (PM?)
Thanks!

neilspotshop said:

do you mind mentioning who they are? they should get props for doing that anyways!

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Hi neil, yea i agree, they should get the props, so ....
Thank You GroWell!
I should add, they have a great selection of products, great stock, good prices, fast and very stealth shipping (plain boxes and well protected)

Anyway here are some pics of the ladies, I transplanted them 15L pots yesterday and gave them another tie down but ran out of string lol so ill finish that tonight... They were nicely rootbound in their 7L containers, i think they should appreciate the upgrade. They also started to look more hungry than they ever have so far, so just after the transplant i fed them a nearly full strength meal.
I also switched the timer so they will have their first 12h sleep tomorrow.



























Peace

Hey guys, just a quick few pics when lights were off for ya:











Peace

Looking great man! Nice Training .
Shouldn't be long before they start reaching for the sky.
Good luck with the grow!