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jubiare
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Well mostly everyone do that don't they? call it a 400 and they are 255w actual draw etc?
OverEagerBeaver
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very cool thread, its awesome to see what these new lights are capable of
lbezphil2005
Member
You are missing black dog led's here. www.blackdogled.comfirst off i have only included what seem to be the most popular models. if anyone has others and have the following info, speak up...
none of these prices include shipping. if you are in north america, expect shipping to be triple or more on the models with a yellow background.
this chart in no way reflects what each individual light is capable of doing. i do have grow info on about 5 of them, but that is subjective to each grower. i may share more of that info later...
anyway, here are the costs of ADVERTISED WATTS vs. REAL WATTS
ADVERTISED:
REAL:
WARRANTY:
kinda interesting...
just one way of looking at things however
okay, i added
blackdogled (these guys offer a lifetime warranty)
the blackstar 500W
and
the plant photonics stuff...
jubiare
Member
thank you, but keep in mind this is just part of the story.
some of these lights are much better than others and you usually get what you pay for in life...
however, i do hope some people get use of these...
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BlueJayWay
Great info, thank you so much! I have been wanting to try an LED grow and i may pick up the progrow 180 as supplemental light in a 10'X5' tent which currently runs 2X600hps, will throw two of the progrow 180's in there...unless someone objects and has a better light to go with 
I do love the lights in Master X's grow, the long skinny ones, but i don't believe he has divuldged where to obtain them??
I do love the lights in Master X's grow, the long skinny ones, but i don't believe he has divuldged where to obtain them??
Great info, thank you so much! I have been wanting to try an LED grow and i may pick up the progrow 180 as supplemental light in a 10'X5' tent which currently runs 2X600hps, will throw two of the progrow 180's in there...unless someone objects and has a better light to go with
I do love the lights in Master X's grow, the long skinny ones, but i don't believe he has divuldged where to obtain them??
your welcome...
mr x. got his leds in spain gudomeledgrow . com
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BlueJayWay
oops, yeah Mr X i meant but his pictures and grows are masterful!
Thanks GP, awesome quick response!
but his pictures and grows are masterful!Thanks GP, awesome quick response!
it doesn't appear to have any red spectrum in it... the blues come from the white.
it can probably grow okay, just not as efficiently as it could be with real full spectrum...
and at those prices you can do much better i think.
WOW, just read entire thread in 2hrs.....great great info here. And thanks for all the leg work GP73LPC!
I'm so ready to go LED when I put back up the big tent BUT i'm still torn between a couple of models....I asked this ques, in your 1lb harvest thread and I will ask it here as well, (since this thread is a lil' more active) I need a panel(s) with the best core penetration,(simular to a 1000hps) in a 4x4 space. So which of these 3 LED's would you guys recommend?? Lumiglow es330,<(will 2 of these be enough? dnt think so & they cost the most!) pro grow 400 (4 of them) or Penetrator (4 of them) remember i'm trying to have penetrating power of a 1000hps without the radiant heat or FLIR problems a 1000hps will create.....Hell, I may just upgrade my tent a get a 4x8 and double up!!!!
I'm so ready to go LED when I put back up the big tent BUT i'm still torn between a couple of models....I asked this ques, in your 1lb harvest thread and I will ask it here as well, (since this thread is a lil' more active) I need a panel(s) with the best core penetration,(simular to a 1000hps) in a 4x4 space. So which of these 3 LED's would you guys recommend?? Lumiglow es330,<(will 2 of these be enough? dnt think so & they cost the most!) pro grow 400 (4 of them) or Penetrator (4 of them) remember i'm trying to have penetrating power of a 1000hps without the radiant heat or FLIR problems a 1000hps will create.....Hell, I may just upgrade my tent a get a 4x8 and double up!!!!
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Two of the ES330's will easily do it, check out SOTF420's albums. He does supplement with a couple of low wattage T5's to round out the spectrum. I would be tempted to use four of the ES165's to get more even coverage. Same wattage total, and cheaper, but for whatever reason the warranty is shorter than the ES330. Check out the link to Greners.com.
http://www.greners.com/i/grow-lights/led-brand/lumigrow.html
So are you saying 4 of the ES165's will be the same penetrating power as a 1000?
[and just for compairison sake, will the blackstar 500w or pro grow 400, 4ea wont??]
Decisions Decisions
I think that you are combining penetration and footprint, and they are entirely different characteristics. The power level and lensing of the LED's is what gives you the penetration, and the form factor (dimensions of the fixture) as well as the operating height above the plants gives you the footprint. I think that using (4) of the 165's gives you the flexibility to have good edge-to-edge lighting in a 4x4 tent, whereas (2) of the 330's limits your ability to evenly light the corners.
I haven't any experience with the other brands, but I know that Blackstar overstates the wattage of their units by about double. This lessens the credibility of any other claims that they make for me.
Well, I thought I did! In my first post, I said that either (2) of the ES330's or (4) the ES165's would pretty close to the equivalent. Most people think that the ES330 is roughly comparable to a 600 watt lamp, and either combination gives you 660 LED watts. The ES165's are basically an ES330 cut in half. As I said before, I have no experience with the other units, and can't speak to their abilities.
*edit* I should also mention that the Lumigrow units have potentiometers to vary the red/blue ratio. This gives you the ability to veg plants that are short and have very tight internodal spacing, and then crank up the red for flowering. Most other companies seem to sell different fixtures for vegging or flowering.
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