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Old 03-30-2013, 12:56 AM #1
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Question what causes "helmet head"...???

just popped 30 beans...25+ALL popped from there initial start w/ good tap roots and HELMET~HEAD...where the seed shell is split but still attached to the seedling...requiring a bit of delicate hand and tweezers work to flush off the shell thus allowing the initial leaf set to emerge an show....and grow

my question is what causes this......????

* not planting the seed deep enuff as to cause the shell to be removed as it grows up and out of the soil...???
* seeds being harvested too early by breeder...???
* seeds not being dried and matured enuff before selling...???
* too much light...???
* too much warmth...???
* to much H20...???
* ph problem w/ starter soil...???
* excessive air flow...???
* OVER pampering the babies...???


these are the majority of my guesses.... BUT would like to hear sum real reason... for this common problem...w/ seedlings?

******* this being said we need a tutorial w/ pic's on
"how to remove helmet head".... *******
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Old 03-30-2013, 01:02 AM #2
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I've had the same experience so often I've become pretty good at removing shells with 2 pairs, of fine point hemostats.
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I only get the 'helmet head' on my oldest (2007-10) homemade seeds that I didn't soak long enough.
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:11 AM #4
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My experience has been that its easier to remove remaining shells in a more humid environment.
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:27 AM #5
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My experience has been that its easier to remove remaining shells in a more humid environment.
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Exactly my thought. I popped fresh tester beans and had to help all of them out. Rh was around 35%.

Spring - fall, no problems but on an occasion or two.
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:41 AM #6
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It is annoying, but I usually just cut along the seem of the shell, where it hasn't opened.
Sometimes i accidently slice a line into the cotyledons, but it doesn't seem to hurt them?

Some drops of water help to slide the shell off too.
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Old 03-30-2013, 05:46 AM #7
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Ive only had it happen when I let it get too dry. My root temps are always pretty cold cuz I usually have air moving
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It's from not planting them deep enough, usually. A light misting helps.
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I plant my seeds into soil and never get this problem. only if its a really light soil, I've heard people say to add extra clay to your soil to prevent this from happening. do you all germ into root riot cubes or something?
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I now pop all seeds in a disposable lasagna pan with lid, filled with 60% organic potting soil and 40% coco. My tomatoes all sprout within 5 days of planting using this method.
The only time i get the dreaded "helmet head" is when i remove the lid too early due to the faster ones stretching towards a tiny pinhole of light from the lid.
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