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Old 11-11-2018, 05:10 AM #3371
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Has anyone tried using nitrogen in the bags or sealing the cobs in wax?

and I'm sitting here after just smoking a little cob joint and thinking about how the high from cobs is way more centered, more cerebral and definitely with lower nervous energy while still not being couchier, than the high from bud which is good but not as enjoyable, much like dry sifted resin has a way better high than the bud it came from. It's as if all THC is more "available" and different, which is (most likely) caused by what happens to the terpenes during the cobbing process.
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Old 11-11-2018, 05:13 AM #3372
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While the high from cobs is good, I do prefer the high from homemade dry sifted resin. Nothing zings my forehead like that first big lungful of pure dry sift in the morning. I haven't bought hash in 20 years and from what I've seen around here, I won't be buying any for another 20. lol
Cobbing definitely makes my stash go further as everything is used. The yield on pure dry sift is very low and it gets smoked really fast too.

Has anyone tried dry sifting fresh frozen plant material made with dry ice and then put that sift through the cobbing process? It would be interesting to see the results from cobs made with dry sifted resin of varying purity. while you could add dry sifted resin (made in the usual way from dried plants) to the bud when rolling up cob, I don't think the resin itself would be affected by the cobbing process as it's dead/dry, I think the resin would need made from fresh frozen bud, air dried for a day then rolled up with bud in cobs. But if the resin contains enough plant material, then I guess you could try cobbing that dry sift by itself?

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I've seen the test results and THC and CBD increases after cobbing. It's probably due to a chemical reaction during fermentation. So I would expect kief would give it a good boost.
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While the high from cobs is good, I do prefer the high from homemade dry sifted resin. Nothing zings my forehead like that first big lungful of pure dry sift in the morning. I haven't bought hash in 20 years and from what I've seen around here, I won't be buying any for another 20. lol
Cobbing definitely makes my stash go further as everything is used. The yield on pure dry sift is very low and it gets smoked really fast too.

Has anyone tried dry sifting fresh frozen plant material made with dry ice and then put that sift through the cobbing process? It would be interesting to see the results from cobs made with dry sifted resin of varying purity. while you could add dry sifted resin (made in the usual way from dried plants) to the bud when rolling up cob, I don't think the resin itself would be affected by the cobbing process as it's dead/dry, I think the resin would need made from fresh frozen bud, air dried for a day then rolled up with bud in cobs. But if the resin contains enough plant material, then I guess you could try cobbing that sry sift by itself?
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I've seen the test results and THC and CBD increases after cobbing. It's probably due to a chemical reaction during fermentation.

The THC won't increase once the plant is cut, much like you can't increase the amount of gold in a ton of ore, but you can concentrate it, which is probably why cobs score higher than bud on THC tests as it's denser. But it might also be partly due to that there is less loss of THC with the cob making process compared to air drying branches for weeks?

Or maybe the cobbing process makes more of the THC "available? I wonder if the total amount of cannabinoids tested on the cob and bud are similar, but the cob tests higher for THC?

I guess smarter people than me can work that out!


Happy Cobbing!

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Man, hash making is another lost art. I've tried shatter, wax, dab, or whatever else they call what they make these days. My finger hash from trimming bud, harvesting seeds, or ice (bubble) hash is far superior to the crap sold. I've tried the new fangled stuff a few times, and my lungs and throat burn immediately or later in the day, every time. Nasty stuff! Don't people understand the difference from coughing from good hashy expansiveness and from toxic chemicals? Even the C02 extracted resin is really horrible.

For me, the best quality bud is the finest high. Good hash is just a different thing, but a nice change of pace. Keif or screened hash is good too. I just don't know why the top quality bud is better. I never get the same cerebral psychedelic experience that comes with the best of the top grade bud. Buds have a magic that you just can't concentrate.

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For me, the best quality bud is the finest high. Good hash is just a different thing, but a nice change of pace. Keif or screened hash is good too. I just don't know why the top quality bud is better. I never get the same cerebral psychedelic experience that comes with the best of the top grade bud. Buds have a magic that you just can't concentrate.

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I've seen the test results and THC and CBD increases after cobbing. It's probably due to a chemical reaction during fermentation.

The THC won't increase once the plant is cut, much like you can't increase the amount of gold in a ton of ore, but you can concentrate it, which is probably why cobs score higher than bud on THC tests as it's denser. But it might also be partly due to that there is less loss of THC with the cob making process compared to air drying branches for weeks?

Or maybe the cobbing process makes more of the THC "available? I wonder if the total amount of cannabinoids tested on the cob and bud are similar, but the cob tests higher for THC?

I guess smarter people than me can work that out!


Happy Cobbing!
CBGA can move further towards thca instead of cbca during fermentation. But like you said, we need a chemist in here. Lol

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Buds have a magic that you just can't concentrate.


Thats because you have experienced some of the finest herb my friend

true, when you smoke bud, you are smoking the whole plant, but smoke dry sift from the same (hopefully the finest sativa buds) and you will soar to a way higher plane while inhaling the 90% less plant matter, and like with cobs, the resin heads are intact when smoked (unlike other forms of hash making). But of course, it's best if the dry sifted resin comes from well grown plants that have been handled with care then dried and stored in ideal conditions then made into dry sift with care and focus on purity, not quantity. I suggest using a gentle technique on small amounts at a time with multiple screens in a low temp/low RH room...but hey, that's another subject for another thread.

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Tangwena - I checked out some other sites about cob making, and on 420 many there seem to be putting their cobs under higher temperatures (up to 60C) for a longer time (48 hours or more)

I might try two days on 40C next time!
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