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Damaged plants from Broad ,cyclamen,Russet Mites
- Thread starter Cabron
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SeaMaiden
I pray to God I never experience either ailment (mosaic virus or these damned bugs!), but if I should, it's threads like these that help me solve the problem.
I missed what you're talking about in the other thread, won't go back to look, but I can say that I was there two years and a few grows ago with root aphids. This poor gal kept telling me, "Root aphids, root aphids, root aphids!" and I told her she had bugs in her eyes. I ate my words, I did! But eating my words of humble pie allowed me to solve my problem, with her help, so it all turned out in the end.
I missed what you're talking about in the other thread, won't go back to look, but I can say that I was there two years and a few grows ago with root aphids. This poor gal kept telling me, "Root aphids, root aphids, root aphids!" and I told her she had bugs in her eyes. I ate my words, I did! But eating my words of humble pie allowed me to solve my problem, with her help, so it all turned out in the end.
Wow there is hope 
Wow there is hope
Hey Aligee. Did the cyclamen mite return after the rosemary and cinnamon oil treatment? Looking at using Envidor or Abamectin but it's nasty nasty stuff. Just wondering if you have an update almost 2 weeks after your post. Is everything still fine?
Glad to see people coming right as i was strongly considering culling everything i have and starting over as it is seemingly one of the worst pests. Rose society for example recommend cull everything and don't propagate anything for 6 months. Also i read somewhere that the females can hibernate for up to 6 months until there is something suitable to feed on. Sounds scary!!!
This would be the end of me!!!!
But there is a silver lining on this mitey cloud :dance013
-|THANKS FOR THE THREAD CABRON|-
Wow there is hope
Hey Aligee. Did the cyclamen mite return after the rosemary and cinnamon oil treatment? Looking at using Envidor or Abamectin but it's nasty nasty stuff. Just wondering if you have an update almost 2 weeks after your post. Is everything still fine?
Glad to see people coming right as i was strongly considering culling everything i have and starting over as it is seemingly one of the worst pests. Rose society for example recommend cull everything and don't propagate anything for 6 months. Also i read somewhere that the females can hibernate for up to 6 months until there is something suitable to feed on. Sounds scary!!!
This would be the end of me!!!!
But there is a silver lining on this mitey cloud :dance013
-|THANKS FOR THE THREAD CABRON|-
sorry you and your plants had to go through the experience of broad mites.
you did the right thing and went straight for the avid.
1 application in my case and it was all over for those spawn of satan!
at least its now documented and people know whats going on.
I battle these invisible agents of destruction for nearly a year before I knew what i was even up against! I lost a years worth of grow to these bastids!
they will take down an entire crop in less than 14 days if nothing is done.
but once they are hit with avid the rebound is amazing!
depending on the damage in no time they are back and thriving!!
thanks for posting cabron, hoping peeps read this and recognize the symptoms as soon as they appear.
I also thought I had mosaic or some type of virus,
then I saw a pic on a yahoo image search and it was a plant that had definite broad mite damage but they said it was hemp streak virus, mistakenly.
you did the right thing and went straight for the avid.
1 application in my case and it was all over for those spawn of satan!
at least its now documented and people know whats going on.
I battle these invisible agents of destruction for nearly a year before I knew what i was even up against! I lost a years worth of grow to these bastids!
they will take down an entire crop in less than 14 days if nothing is done.
but once they are hit with avid the rebound is amazing!
depending on the damage in no time they are back and thriving!!
thanks for posting cabron, hoping peeps read this and recognize the symptoms as soon as they appear.
I also thought I had mosaic or some type of virus,
then I saw a pic on a yahoo image search and it was a plant that had definite broad mite damage but they said it was hemp streak virus, mistakenly.
Ok Time for an update ..
I have a very nice lil greenhouse for myself and patients
I of course was not about to blast my meds with avid so
I have some pics to share of Mature plants and the damage
from what I have now verified as Russet mites ..
These are some voracious and tenacious lil bastards ..
I'll show you some pics of the same plant
healthy flowers and close by on the same branch but lower
towards the meristem where they originally invade each branch
from it will have damage incrementally as they progress from flower to flower .
Note that they don't harm fan leaves directly ,focusing on
pistillate material..
This is a sure way to diagnose these bastards,,
I have a very nice lil greenhouse for myself and patients
I of course was not about to blast my meds with avid so
I have some pics to share of Mature plants and the damage
from what I have now verified as Russet mites ..
These are some voracious and tenacious lil bastards ..
I'll show you some pics of the same plant
healthy flowers and close by on the same branch but lower
towards the meristem where they originally invade each branch
from it will have damage incrementally as they progress from flower to flower .
Note that they don't harm fan leaves directly ,focusing on
pistillate material..
This is a sure way to diagnose these bastards,,
As they penetrate the plant's cuticle they also inject a toxin
to help break down plant tissue and allow them to ingest the
material ,a digestive action.
It's this toxic bite that accumulates and causes the plant's growth
regulatory system to go into a stasis or shock.
stress is then pronounced as is THC production halted with floral
maturation .
This death of the cell tissue also turns a brown and is noticed by
visual inspection.
Your flowers will be dry and void of any quality that we strive for.
to help break down plant tissue and allow them to ingest the
material ,a digestive action.
It's this toxic bite that accumulates and causes the plant's growth
regulatory system to go into a stasis or shock.
stress is then pronounced as is THC production halted with floral
maturation .
This death of the cell tissue also turns a brown and is noticed by
visual inspection.
Your flowers will be dry and void of any quality that we strive for.
The damaging toxins are negated to a large extent by aspirin. In my 3 year battle with cyclamen mites, I noticed that if I fed with aspirin solution (325 Mg. Per gallon), the visible damage would reverse and disappear almost immediately. Noticeable difference overnight. Aspirin won't kill mites, but does mitigate the damage from the toxins to a large extent. Plants that were browning and stunted with twisted "growth", went back to "normal" after aspirin treatment. I observed this over and over. By the way, I may have been the first person to post pictures of plants attacked by these bastards. Three times, I posted in the infirmary, and no one got it right for all that time. Now when I see the damage, it's the first thing I think of. It's a good thing that the cause is now known, and that we know it isn't an incurable, highly contagious virus, which was my original conclusion. Three years of hell, but the aspirin helped to bring most of them to harvest with minimal damage. Go with aspirin in your food/water application, and you will notice a huge difference. Then commence to killing those bastards. I recommend the heat treatment as an alternative/adjunct to chems.
Aspirin is your friend. I use it automatically now on all plants, whether or not they show any symptoms of anything.
how do you add the aspirin? do you just crush up a pill or is there a liquid solution? add to roots, or foliar spray?
What are the chances of pests developing a resistance to Avid? In terms of producing clean meds, at what point are you using a product like that as I'm used to more organic approaches that really just slow pests down instead of eradicating them.
