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Oh No!

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Guest

Has anyone, especially in US, seen the news today where Bush in a porn probe has subpoened Google's records. Apparently, they want any obvious searches for porn, and then they want to pull all searches in a given week, just to see where they go and if it is to porn. Jeez O Pete, what next. Something else to worry bout. Glad I got my good sites like ICM and its forums on my fav's.lol Everyone have a good one :yoinks: :joint:
 

mpro

Active member
google Ashcroft's war on porn. before it's to late! <insert suspenseful music>

If they get rid of porn, what are people going to do on the 'net?

It's amazing how quickly a country can suck, with the right people in 'charge'
 

Dr.Feelgood

Member
Oh come on guys! Get on the morality train! We're going to rid the country of all things immoral! You know...?...individual rights, abortions, gays, blacks, porn, liberals, trees, water, wildlife refuges, and all of that other bullshit! The rapture is coming and I hope you're on the RIGHT side, if ya know what I mean.

:fsu:

How's the weather in Vancouver right about now?
 

marimbas

Member
nazi fascism... thats how it sounds like... this with the patriot act... really scary shit boys.... really scary shit...
 

mpro

Active member
Dankdude said:
So far Google has told the Federal Government to FUCK OFF!!

/mr burns: Excellent

off topic: Switzerland is voting to legalize..again, anyway, if it passes, the gf and I are out of here (us).
 

Fat Albert

Active member
mpro said:
google Ashcroft's war on porn. before it's to late! <insert suspenseful music>

If they get rid of porn, what are people going to do on the 'net?

It's amazing how quickly a country can suck, with the right people in 'charge'


Ummmm....John Ashcroft is no longer the Attorney General. He resigned in November 2004 and left in February 2005.

Fat A
 

mpro

Active member
I don't think I said Ashcroft was the Attorney General.

I hope this 'morality train' gets derailed. <rant> I'm so fucking sick of people, whatever religion, moral background, upbringing WHATEVER, saying what is right/wrong. An eye for an eye. how fucking simple was that? Abortion? why the hell is that the most talked about issue? I can't believe so many rich men could be SO concerned whether a chick gets rid of a developing egg. :confused:

We are all ORGANIC! we DECOMPOSE in the ground, just like EVERY other ANIMAL on the PLANET. It seems Greed is one of the only things we don't share with other species.(on a basic level)</rant>

sorry...just smoked some good stuff, after a LONG day of watching msnbc, cnn, HH. saw the bin laden story like 15 times in 2 hours.

peace, mp :joint:

edit: FA this rant has nothing to do with your reply or anything like that. Don't think it came off like that, but ya never know how people read shit...
 
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Pretty fucked up, and I don't even believe for a sec this has anything to do with porno and protecting kids, parents can limit access to stuff anyway, and beyond the limitations inherent in that, i.e., kids will be kids and naturally curious, who thinks that seeing a titty, pussy, or cock is going to send a pre-teen spiralling out of control and into the gutter?
Unfortunately, I do believe that this is cause for concern as regards our community, as I think they'll collect info on this subject.
 

SativaJoe

Member
Come on guys... I agree the goverment goes overboard, but if they are doing this to go after kiddie porn peddlers...I see no harm. If they are using their powers for other issues I see problems, but people who produce that kiddie porn or buy it should be executed by a slow painful method.

Afterall what if was your child, brother or sister who was abused?
 
OK, so are they seeking to go after people who are involved in selling child pornography? I may have missed it in reading, but I was under the impression that they were seeking to somehow protect children fron viewing porno online, perhaps i just misread or missed that.
And even if that's the case, how will spying on everyone help that effort anyway? They can just as easily go online and search for child pornography.

"Afterall what if was your child, brother or sister who was abused?"

Define 'abused'? If we're talking about children who are abducted and forced into the sex trade, I hope they're doing more than going through search engine info, and once a child is abducted as such, he/she is likely gone forever. This spying program has nothing to do with helping children in any way that is clear to me.
 
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The next time someone ask you IS THERE ENEYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE? Isay yes more LIBERTIES!!! THE state of being FREE!
I have the freedom to kill myself with Fn cigeretts!
I have the freedom drink myself to death with beer(idont drink)or alcohol.
I have the freedom to get scripts of pain killers and then get addicted to them.(have two weeks left of going to the clinic :woohoo: )
But hell no I cannot smoke a joint or grow the most beautiful GOD given plant!
WHAT the FUCK!!
my 2 cents
DBD
 

Tandare

Member
The child act of protection the Goverment tried to pass before was not just about kiddie porn.
In fact it is in reguard to what a child may find while surfing the net to include adult legal porn sites.
What would happen if they can pass this law is sites found unprotected offering adult porn would be fined big fines.
So I feel imo what the Goverment is looking for is another way to make more money off the internet.
They use the ploy of protecting a child as a way to get people to agree to allow them to remove your right to privacy.
Its up to parents to use protective software and be alert in what a child is doing on line.
There are loggers parents can and do install so they can know exactly what their kids are looking at.
These laws would really crush the legal porn vendors as they need to advertise to bring people to their sites.
if these laws pass they would have no effective way to offer their service for sale.
This is not just about kiddie porn.
As they would not stop there.
Its just the excuse to use the law to aquire the search engine records.
Do you think they would not use this to go after and monitor people who type MJ into the search engine?
And would be many red necks who would say as long as they are only trying to rid the world of pot heads then its ok a good thing.
If your going to read what the law wants to do for a particular reason.
its best to read it in full and dont miss the small print.
People have a right to privacy.
What a person decides to borrow from a public library is none of the goverments buissness.
What Magazines we buy is not the goverments buissness either.
When people use a search engine.
I would like to feel while the Goverment is stopping poor and ill people from getting the funds for medication and life support.
I am sure money being wasted spying on ALL americans could be used to help buy fuel and medication and food for the poor.
I am sure the money wasted spending millions of dollars searching for pot smokers and growers could also be used to help people who need medications who in some cases dont get the meds because they cant afford to pay the co payments.
I think its great that Google has stood up and said no way to these unfair requests.
As for Yahoo I have lost enough respect for them to remove their tool bar from my browser that I dont recall asking for in the first place.
I will never load a yahoo web site or search engine again.
I will use google.
Not because I have anything to hide.
But because i have a right to privacy.
As long as i have a right to choose.
I choose freedom and the right to choose.
Tandare
Tandare
 
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junit

Active member
The smoke screen can be put up in anyway.....

usually protecting Children Trumps everything... So in there eyes... and what they spoon feed the public is that if they Help save 1 Child.. its worth Violating thousands if not millions of Americans/ any one else.

just like the phone Tapping Issue... They Tap thousands of Americans With NOO LEADS
and they smoke screen there is its protecting us on the homeland... Bushes Base is made up of nothing BUT followers... They look to someone or something for all the answers...All you gotta do is speak up.

The Fact of the matter is that they are PUSHING the Envelope .... Seeing what they can get away with here... and what they can get away with there. Yet the American Public Continues to just take the Administrations word for it. (After Massive Fuck up and fuck up) Honest to God, Does anyone else feel like OKing These types of ILLEGAL wires taps is an impeachable offense? I guess if we learned anything in the Last 8 years or so........ its not a crime unless Sex is involved, And anything goes as long as Large amounts of money is exchanging hands.
 
G

Guest

Come on guys... I agree the goverment goes overboard, but if they are doing this to go after kiddie porn peddlers...I see no harm. If they are using their powers for other issues I see problems, but people who produce that kiddie porn or buy it should be executed by a slow painful method.
Afterall what if was your child, brother or sister who was abused?

Don't believe everything you read. As a matter of fact, don't believe most of what the W government tells you.

Wasn't "weapons of mass destruction" enough evidence this machine is a deceiving scam. What about N. Korea and Iran, they aren't a bigger threat than Iraq. Bin Laden wasn't even in Iraq. Now there's a civil war ready to break thanks to us...

This has nothing to do with kiddie porn, they can find those if they want, just go to the local Catholic priest association......

ooooooooooh did he say that?
 
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