Super sedating strains for quiting Heroin

rolandomota · Jun 21, 2019

I found a fully loaded syringe with heroin this morning while on a walk. I called the cops to come get it....Search for some peanut butter herijuana lucky 13 seeds, on the internet and here's an old smoke report of golden tiger by ace seeds I imagine Malawi and Malawi x Panama and killer a5 haze have the same strong up then down effect

billyblog said:
previously posted by myself in another thread...for the sake of all those who probably would not find it...

GOLDEN TIGER:

Well, I'm using it right now and have been choofing this stuff over the last few weeks...I should mention that the stuff I did was a little way off finishing though it was reasonably well done, just I like to perfect things and I have no doubt that this stuff could be way better if done a tad longer, though that's sorta hard to imagine!

WARNING: Golden Tiger is NOT one of your typical African sativas which are gnerally known for having very energetic, clear, "up" highs.

I had plenty of specimens as I did 4 packs together and was able to do some selectiive breeding along the way. Not a lot of obvious phenotype variances, so pretty stable.

The first thing that hits you is the flavour. A really notable mandarine flavour, almost a tad bitter like citrus peel can be at times but a pleasant and moreish taste. The smoke burns a little bit hot but not too severe.

The high is a bit of a creeper. A way down the pinny and you start to feel her coming on. At first, its a very intense rush but after a while this settles to an intense up high which subsequently reverts to a good solid stonning to both head and body and you can easily feel pistil-whipped and disorientated from downing a fatty with a friend. The "up" end of the high is also quite complex with a lot of psychadelic and euphoric substance to it, so it's not a clear buzz but not what I'd call a muddy high either...it's too intensely high to be muddy and too complex to be clear. There's an intense interaction going on between the psychadelic, the sens of euphoria and psychic consciousness while the high is still in its upper register, however...

a burnout effect is quite noticable as you are coming down off it and that can be quite protracted. I feel totally wasted after smoking this stuff for a while and next morning hangovers are quite the norm. One of my biggest problems with smoking this strain is that I find it really hard not to keep falling asleep once I've come down from intensity of the initial high but this could be circumstantial due to a bit of nervous tension and lack of sleep on my part. One of the nearest experiences I've had to a heroin experience in that it takes you rocketing up so intensely high and then brings you down with this heavy gravity effect while the high is still going forward...you could be forgiven for thinking this had heavy indica influences in it.

One of the outstanding things about GT is the minimal amount you need to get off on. I keep trying to limit myself to rolling really skinny pin joints but even these send a couple of seasoned smokers flying before it belts you back down by whanging you about the back of the head.

I'm sure if this stuff were grown out to its fullest, it would want to come with a serious warning on it. Grows a chunky beast with tight sizable nuggets that turn lovely blueish hues with deep orange overlays toward the end. The bud is excessively greasy and holds together well in joints.

After an intense sky rocket ride, you hang out with a very befuddled mind bearing a warm glow to it that sits somewhere between a very high high and a stone, leaving you pretty wasted but baked if you push it. Not the best weed for working on. Not the best social weed unless your tolerances are very high. In public, the red-eyed stupor overriding your face is going to give you away for sure.
Surprisingly, you can actually get a bit done on this stuff if you're quick enough not to get too blazed but so easy to fall into the trap. Pays to be very conservative in dosing and medicating.
Don't ever recall smoking anything harder hitting. She delivers a real solid brute force that is distinctive on a number of levels and isn't just about raw potency. IMHO, a truly remarkable hybrid!

Mattbho · Jun 21, 2019

Get ahold of a doctor . Suboxone +suboxone maintenance is one of newer drugs that help opioid addicts. Unless he has some major willpower relapse is most likely to happen

Douglas.Curtis · Jun 21, 2019

wvkindbud38 said:
There's no weed on earth that's gonna help with coming off herion, period. And same for xanax. When real dope heads get dope sick weed is the last thing you want.

Are you using high CBD strains? (it does not sound like it at all)

They make a HUGE difference over common cannabis any day. I seriously would not consider cold-turkey for a hard-core addict without it. CBD makes a HUGE difference.

Douglas.Curtis · Jun 21, 2019

The most significant information you need for *any* addiction is why the person began using in the first place. Emotions (especially those which drive you to use chemicals) are a tool to help you identify issues. Addiction is driven by issues (whether you're aware of it or not) and unless the underlying issue is resolved, the use of chemicals to scratch the itch will always be a strong drive.

Find the issue, remove the drive.

wvkindbud38 · Jun 21, 2019

Douglas.Curtis said:
Are you using high CBD strains? (it does not sound like it at all)

They make a HUGE difference over common cannabis any day. I seriously would not consider cold-turkey for a hard-core addict without it. CBD makes a HUGE difference.

No your right, I've not tried any CBD strains. But I wasn't foolish enough to think weed would help. I mean like I said I tried it and it got 100x worse. That's been about roughly a decade ago, there wasn't much about CBD strains back then. I'm just giving the facts, and for the asshole who brought up counseling I know the guy didn't ask for counseling. I'm just giving him real life type of shit, I've been there, it's real fucking dark. But as Curtis pointed out no I haven't tried high CBD strains. Ive auctually got a Fruity Jack from Philosopher that supposed to be high in CBD growing outdoors right now. Might be a strain to look into for those seeking. :tiphat:

wvkindbud38 · Jun 21, 2019

Mattbho said:
Get ahold of a doctor . Suboxone +suboxone maintenance is one of newer drugs that help opioid addicts. Unless he has some major willpower relapse is most likely to happen

This is a great starting point, especially while his friend is looking for a strain that may help some also. Alot better than the streets, but you gotta be ready and wanna quit is the main thing. I finally woke up one day on my own, nobody on my ass trying to make me quit. But once I got it in my head along with a treatment program and yes counseling helps, sometimes I think it doesn't but it does. I'll quit counseling and get outta here guys. Ive wanted to try kratom but don't really know what kind to get. Ive got severe leg, back, neck problems and have alot of aches and pains. I'm excite about this Fruity Jack strain, maybe the higher cbd might help some aches

Douglas.Curtis · Jun 22, 2019

wvkindbud38 said:
No your right, I've not tried any CBD strains. But I wasn't foolish enough to think weed would help.

Well it's not foolish and it helps significantly with opiate withdrawals, as does "real" counseling from someone who understands addiction. Addiction is scratching an itch, and counseling will help find the itch and eliminate it. (edit: I want to be more clear here. CBD does not affect the physical withdrawals directly, it makes the process much less uncomfortable. Physical and mental discomforts are greatly alleviated when CBD cannabis is used.)

I can't remember where, but I remember reading an article about the increase in Colorado addiction clinics using high CBD cannabis with their patients. They're using it because it's amazingly effective for withdrawals and mental health.
:tiphat:

indabonga · Jun 22, 2019

For the withdrawal symptoms cannabis, benzo are totally useless. You need a specific product: methadone or subotex. Decreasing for 10 or 20 days you remove completely the phisical addiction... For the mental addiction it's a problem of willpower

yahooman · Jun 22, 2019

you guys scared him away!poor guy...
why do people feel they need to give advice when its not asked....guy hasnt even responded and your still going

xxPeacePipexx · Jun 22, 2019

SWIM (Someone Who Isn't Me) type of questions always seem to go astray around here ....

Douglas.Curtis · Jun 22, 2019

yahooman said:
you guys scared him away!poor guy...
why do people feel they need to give advice when its not asked....guy hasnt even responded and your still going

The discussion has it's own life and purpose, the original poster is really not needed. They may still be reading, and I hope they're still pursuing the info.

yahooman · Jun 22, 2019

Douglas.Curtis said:
The discussion has it's own life and purpose, the original poster is really not needed. They may still be reading, and I hope they're still pursuing the info.

you know what...you are absolutely right,my apologies

Harry Ballzonya · Jun 22, 2019

Herijuana was the best strain imo when I kicked. I lost her and have tried 2 other versions but not the same...not even close. That being said I found a good Bubba Kush as a really decent alternative. Everyone's brains are wired different , with different chemical inbalances ect. Cannabis saved my life, Iv'e smoked my whole life but smoked way less for the 15 years I was a heroin addict. I still don't smoke anywhere near the OZ a day I used to , but it definitely takes the edge off the bad days. Catpiss is one of my favorites.

wvkindbud38 · Jun 22, 2019

yahooman said:
you guys scared him away!poor guy...
why do people feel they need to give advice when its not asked....guy hasnt even responded and your still going

Don't worry about it, you don't have anything to contribute to the thread. Especially no facts, this is a serious matter. There's always a troll in every thread. Where only trying to help somebody with a life threatening issue. And I take addiction seriously, I don't give a shit if you think I'm counseling or whatever. The reason I offer my advice is because ive lived it for 45yrs, watched many friends and family overdose. No that don't make me a expert. But I know how i managed to get straight, and Ive been in programs for 20yrs, yes alot of relapses and things. Every program Ive been in was different facilities and drs/counselors. ive know more about addiction for more yrs than most the members age on here

wvkindbud38 · Jun 22, 2019

africaseeds said:
I've read plenty of people talk about OG Kush and some of the other OG's like Hollywood Pure Kush have a certain type of terpene profile that really works well for people who love opiods and especially heroin to get that feeling that they like. I've heard several stories of people that quit heroin by using strains like these to make RSO and then using that in combination with Ibogaine and Kratom.
Anyone have suggestions of strains that I can try that will make me feel like I took vicodin or opiod based pain killers?

I'd like to help a friend of mine quit heroin and that is why I'm out to find strains as I described.

Thanks for your time

Sir I apologize if I gave you to much info, or sounded like I was counseling. If you need my help I'm around and will do what I can. I honestly didn't have any luck with cannabis. But Curtis said the high CBD strains would possibly help some. Id never tried CBD strains, so Id look into it. And Welcome to Icmag!!!

Americangrower · Jun 22, 2019

While I don't know anything about quitting hard drugs. I do know weed, I would start with BOG's Sour Bubble it has a nice relaxing high with zero anxiety. GG4 is a more mid level high but I find no anxiety.
So I would start with sour bub but giving Tony Greens Gorilla bubble a look as well. She would produce more and make killa extractions.

I wish you luck.. you can do it.

ranga12341 · Jun 22, 2019

In my experience with opiate and benzo withdrawl heavy indica edibles help with sleep which is important. Smoking dulled the sickness slightly but not much. Edibles always made a difference between sleeping and not good luck mate stay strong

Eternal Play · Jun 22, 2019

You’re not going to like this, but I met a friend in a mental rehab that required heroin to function.. he takes 3500mg of thc a day, so if you got the weed and don’t mind not blinking for a while, I’d suggest powerful edibles.. you’ll nod off kind of, I just staying in bed when youre on edibles.. just be careful of waking up in the middle unable to blink

soil margin · Jun 22, 2019

Bubba Kush. Specifically the feminized version from growers choice seeds. A couple hits of the shit will literally paralyze you if you don't have a tolerance slowly built up.

yahooman · Jun 22, 2019

wvkindbud38 said:
Don't worry about it, you don't have anything to contribute to the thread. Especially no facts, this is a serious matter. There's always a troll in every thread. Where only trying to help somebody with a life threatening issue. And I take addiction seriously, I don't give a shit if you think I'm counseling or whatever. The reason I offer my advice is because ive lived it for 45yrs, watched many friends and family overdose. No that don't make me a expert. But I know how i managed to get straight, and Ive been in programs for 20yrs, yes alot of relapses and things. Every program Ive been in was different facilities and drs/counselors. ive know more about addiction for more yrs than most the members age on here

DONT YOU DARE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW ABOUT ME!!!!do you understand?
i watched my best friend die of an overdose,and much much more,so dont assume to know my life and intentions

I KNOW ADDICTION ALL TOO WELL!!!!

as an addict myself i wouldnrt want advice from a bunch of people i dont know,but i dont trust many people,especially strangers!!

i have also lived with addiction for over 40 years,both myself,family and friends...you could say i was born into it

when douglas curtis posted i saw another point of view so i apologized!!!what a troll move that was!!!!!!!!!!

i apologized,move the fuck on

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