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Is the legal cannabis industry just a changing of the guard?
- Thread starter shaggyballs
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Long as we are able to continue to grow our own I'm happy, been nice being legal medically for awhile, nice being rec now too. I am all for dispensaries, for some people, but I will always grow my own. And big pharm can F them selves. But I agree with what you all said completely, already see it happening.
Yay for Michiganders
Yay for Michiganders
EvergreenState
Active member
The reason most states allocate a percentage of state ,stolen revenues, to law enforcement from legal pot growers, processors and retailers is because law enforcement will be their strong arm enforcers to protect their new marijuana monopoly. Please understand that if the state and local agencies (cities, counties) take the largest cut it is THEIR business. The growers, processors and retailers work for them.
Here in Washington the tax rate on marijuana for the state and the city is now at 53%. So when I spend $10 at a dispensary the state gets 46%, city 8% or $5.30 out of that $10. The state and city does no work other than some weak ass regulations and thinks it deserves 53 cents of every dollar taken in by growers, processors and reatilers. The people in the marijuana business work hard and take great financial risks and do a great deal of work in order to run these businesses but the state takes the biggest cut. The state makes organized crime loan sharks and protection rackets look like pussies. The state does their organized crime activities LEGALLY and take a bigger cut.
Good luck Michigan and don't let the state bastards and their strong arm collection agents and head bashers take control. You will regret it.
Here in Washington the tax rate on marijuana for the state and the city is now at 53%. So when I spend $10 at a dispensary the state gets 46%, city 8% or $5.30 out of that $10. The state and city does no work other than some weak ass regulations and thinks it deserves 53 cents of every dollar taken in by growers, processors and reatilers. The people in the marijuana business work hard and take great financial risks and do a great deal of work in order to run these businesses but the state takes the biggest cut. The state makes organized crime loan sharks and protection rackets look like pussies. The state does their organized crime activities LEGALLY and take a bigger cut.
Good luck Michigan and don't let the state bastards and their strong arm collection agents and head bashers take control. You will regret it.
I have to agree with this statement, it is the truth, sad but true!
Personally, I've stopped using the terms 'Grey and Black Market'. Now I say, Established Cannabis Industry. The ECI and the Legacy Players who created it gave us the cannabis we enjoy now. It's time they were recognized and compensated for their enormous contributions over the last 5 decades.
One thing we can do here on ICMag is to preserve the lore and knowledge of existing genetics. Big Ag will try to rebrand, essentially claiming that any 'strain' they come up with was pulled out the ass, rather than admitting to standing on the shoulders of giants that came before them. Some of us older breeders have seen so much cannabis genetics over the years that we often see familiar traits in the works of younger breeders. Thankfully, most up and coming breeders are hip to the work of their elders and eager to name their sources. I'm predicting that big Ag will not, and that will work to their disadvantage. If connoisseur growers and breeders continue on as we have for the last 5 decades, I really don't think big Ag will be able to compete. We'll just breed them under the table!
One thing we can do here on ICMag is to preserve the lore and knowledge of existing genetics. Big Ag will try to rebrand, essentially claiming that any 'strain' they come up with was pulled out the ass, rather than admitting to standing on the shoulders of giants that came before them. Some of us older breeders have seen so much cannabis genetics over the years that we often see familiar traits in the works of younger breeders. Thankfully, most up and coming breeders are hip to the work of their elders and eager to name their sources. I'm predicting that big Ag will not, and that will work to their disadvantage. If connoisseur growers and breeders continue on as we have for the last 5 decades, I really don't think big Ag will be able to compete. We'll just breed them under the table!
White Beard
Active member
The Schumer-Jeffries bill in the Senate proposes to deschedule completely and expunge records. If that makes it thru, it will take the wind out of tough-guy regulations in the states.
We can *fight* this locally, but we have to win it *nationally*. As long as federal anti-cannabis measures are in place, the state legislators will have no problem pointing to the fed stance to justify the most draconian forms of “legalization”.
Don’t forget, too, that ~half the states have Republican legislatures; that crowd ALWAYS plays for the big-money team, so we need to recognize them as driving factors in the current botch-job.
We also need to make OUR numbers and our parameters and our goals known in state houses and Capitol Hill. We may no add up dollar-wise, but there are more of us and many on our side. Congress *must* hear from more than the big-money boys.
We can *fight* this locally, but we have to win it *nationally*. As long as federal anti-cannabis measures are in place, the state legislators will have no problem pointing to the fed stance to justify the most draconian forms of “legalization”.
Don’t forget, too, that ~half the states have Republican legislatures; that crowd ALWAYS plays for the big-money team, so we need to recognize them as driving factors in the current botch-job.
We also need to make OUR numbers and our parameters and our goals known in state houses and Capitol Hill. We may no add up dollar-wise, but there are more of us and many on our side. Congress *must* hear from more than the big-money boys.
Fight you say?
Not a bad idea.
How about we start with standing up and saying fuck you to the government!
We can do this with a NO vote to fake legalization.
Some can anyway for others it is already too late.
In 2014 I said we need to:
Vote no to legalize cannabis or else!
We went ahead with fake legalization anyway so now we have to deal with the or else part of it all .
Too bad it all could not have been done the right way the first time around.
Not a bad idea.
How about we start with standing up and saying fuck you to the government!
We can do this with a NO vote to fake legalization.
Some can anyway for others it is already too late.
In 2014 I said we need to:
Vote no to legalize cannabis or else!
We went ahead with fake legalization anyway so now we have to deal with the or else part of it all .
Too bad it all could not have been done the right way the first time around.
Oh, although it is a good thing to get criminal records expunged, what is the sense in that when you throw new folks in jail for cannabis growing everyday.
What kind of shit is this?
They look compassionate on the surface but the same old song of prison for cannabis growers is still playin on the radio.
And if you think things will get better once the FEDS decide to go legal?
You may want to rethink that thought prosess.
Big AG will then open the floodgates and let the trauma begin.
But we will soon see the truth.
What kind of shit is this?
They look compassionate on the surface but the same old song of prison for cannabis growers is still playin on the radio.
And if you think things will get better once the FEDS decide to go legal?
You may want to rethink that thought prosess.
Big AG will then open the floodgates and let the trauma begin.
But we will soon see the truth.
If you think he is not telling the truth check the link.
Link:
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=340053
troutman
Seed Whore
